Am I levelling myself?

[Longy]

Yeah, not folding this blind on blind

Might go for a limp/re-shove line here sometimes...

It's not bvb,ICM this is a fold yeah ?? 1010 is deifinitely my decision line but it's a sigh fold for me if it's a reg,I probably call if it's a donk.If this is a reg the only hand in his range we are ahead is 99,his range would be 99+ AQ+ AJs+ for a normal reg,i really think we can let this go in this spot.

I don't agree with this, if a reg opens the button near the bubble and i am in the sb with a monster stack. I am reshoving a hell of a lot wider than that, for reasons very much outlined in this thread that people would fold 10's here making a reshove very profitable.

[mondatoo]

Yeah, not folding this blind on blind

Might go for a limp/re-shove line here sometimes...

It's not bvb,ICM this is a fold yeah ?? 1010 is deifinitely my decision line but it's a sigh fold for me if it's a reg,I probably call if it's a donk.If this is a reg the only hand in his range we are ahead is 99,his range would be 99+ AQ+ AJs+ for a normal reg,i really think we can let this go in this spot.

I don't agree with this, if a reg opens the button near the bubble and i am in the sb with a monster stack. I am reshoving a hell of a lot wider than that, for reasons very much outlined in this thread that people would fold 10's here making a reshove very profitable.

Yeah you would because your good,most the regs aren't that good to see this as an exploitable spot,imo.

[GreekStein]

Yeah, not folding this blind on blind

Might go for a limp/re-shove line here sometimes...

It's not bvb,ICM this is a fold yeah ?? 1010 is deifinitely my decision line but it's a sigh fold for me if it's a reg,I probably call if it's a donk.If this is a reg the only hand in his range we are ahead is 99,his range would be 99+ AQ+ AJs+ for a normal reg,i really think we can let this go in this spot.

I don't agree with this, if a reg opens the button near the bubble and i am in the sb with a monster stack. I am reshoving a hell of a lot wider than that, for reasons very much outlined in this thread that people would fold 10's here making a reshove very profitable.

Yeah you would because your good,most the regs aren't that good to see this as an exploitable spot.

?!?!

Beg to differ.

[mondatoo]

Yeah, not folding this blind on blind

Might go for a limp/re-shove line here sometimes...

It's not bvb,ICM this is a fold yeah ?? 1010 is deifinitely my decision line but it's a sigh fold for me if it's a reg,I probably call if it's a donk.If this is a reg the only hand in his range we are ahead is 99,his range would be 99+ AQ+ AJs+ for a normal reg,i really think we can let this go in this spot.

I don't agree with this, if a reg opens the button near the bubble and i am in the sb with a monster stack. I am reshoving a hell of a lot wider than that, for reasons very much outlined in this thread that people would fold 10's here making a reshove very profitable.

Yeah you would because your good,most the regs aren't that good to see this as an exploitable spot.

?!?!

Beg to differ.

I'm thinking of the 6's and 12's so yeah I'm prob wrong there,I still think we should fold and I prefer open jamming then bet/call.

[Simon Galloway]

In a scheduled MTT I would bet call, unless SB was Rock of Gibraltar.)

In a 9man I would shove.  (I don't want to shove >12 BBs really, but meh)

In a 45/90 man I have had trials at playing it both ways.  Bet/calling and failing to get there against Qx for so long that you finally decide to give up and just jam, which may lose some EV but at least stops the outdraws long enough to regain your sanity.

I'm not sure I agree with your range for the SB there Raymond, pretty sure I've seen regs turn over weirder shite than that.  Pairs all the way down, some "blackjack hands" and some "button open, he can't poss call the re-raise" moves.  They aren't particularly looking to exploit you in a Longy way, they either a) think they are winning or b) refuse to give you a genuine hand for your button raise or c) don't have the genuine sb range that they should at this stage of the tourny.

[mondatoo]

In a scheduled MTT I would bet call, unless SB was Rock of Gibraltar.)

In a 9man I would shove.  (I don't want to shove >12 BBs really, but meh)

In a 45/90 man I have had trials at playing it both ways.  Bet/calling and failing to get there against Qx for so long that you finally decide to give up and just jam, which may lose some EV but at least stops the outdraws long enough to regain your sanity.

I'm not sure I agree with your range for the SB there Raymond, pretty sure I've seen regs turn over weirder shite than that.  Pairs all the way down, some "blackjack hands" and some "button open, he can't poss call the re-raise" moves.  They aren't particularly looking to exploit you in a Longy way, they either a) think they are winning or b) refuse to give you a genuine hand for your button raise or c) don't have the genuine sb range that they should at this stage of the tourny.

I did say that's a standard regs range and I think it's about right.Also I'm not jamming to prevent being outdrawn
just ppl peel a lot when shallow and shouldn't whereby most flops aren't good for us.

[mondatoo]

Pretty sure I raise to 1500 and call this off in a button vs blind situation. We have over 15bigs I am not a fan of shoving, even though it is almost certainly +ev. I think raise/call or even raise/fold against a nit with a similar stack has a more ++ev outcome.

If this was a bubble of a 9man, yeah maybe folding is good, but in a 45 man the structure is a lot more top heavy esp on tilt. That doubling up here is deffo of value to us.

Also constantly shoving 15bbs if your a reg in these games is deffo going to diminsh your +ev opportunities in the future.

I did forget that tilt ones don't have ante's,do you just shove on stars ?

[Longy]

Pretty sure I raise to 1500 and call this off in a button vs blind situation. We have over 15bigs I am not a fan of shoving, even though it is almost certainly +ev. I think raise/call or even raise/fold against a nit with a similar stack has a more ++ev outcome.

If this was a bubble of a 9man, yeah maybe folding is good, but in a 45 man the structure is a lot more top heavy esp on tilt. That doubling up here is deffo of value to us.

Also constantly shoving 15bbs if your a reg in these games is deffo going to diminsh your +ev opportunities in the future.

I did forget that tilt ones don't have ante's,do you just shove on stars ?

Yeah I do with antes, as 15bbs with antes = 10 bbs without antes roughly.

[Dewi_cool]

I play a few of these, I would push pre, but fold as played.

[Amatay]

I play a few of these, I would push pre, but fold as played.

[DMorgan]

ICM definitely makes this a fold as played but I really don't like open shoving. You're pretty much gunna fold out everything you beat and get called by everything that has you crushed.

If someone has SNGWiz or SNG Power Tools could you run the calculation and see how wide SB has to be shoving to make TT a call here?

[Skgv]

honest opinion is you are not my hero !

[MC]

Yeah, not folding this blind on blind

Might go for a limp/re-shove line here sometimes...

It's not bvb,ICM this is a fold yeah ?? 1010 is deifinitely my decision line but it's a sigh fold for me if it's a reg,I probably call if it's a donk.If this is a reg the only hand in his range we are ahead is 99,his range would be 99+ AQ+ AJs+ for a normal reg,i really think we can let this go in this spot.

Oopsie misread the hand...

Ugh this is pretty close, def get it in if villain is aggro, def fold if they are a nit.