Jacks, never a right way to play them?

[Bully87]

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, April 03, 05:56:29 ET 2011
Table Otila III (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $19.35 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 34
Seat 2: Player2 ( $23.90 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 6.5, Hands: 87
Seat 3: Player3 ( $16.56 USD ) - VPIP: 66, PFR: 7, 3B: 8, AF: 1.4, Hands: 74
Seat 4: Player4 ( $27.63 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 23
Seat 5: Player5 ( $25.99 USD ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 4, AF: 3.8, Hands: 88
Seat 6: Hero ( $33.44 USD ) - VPIP: 37, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 3.1, Hands: 1102
Player5 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  ]
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$0.75 USD]
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero raises [$2.00 USD]
Player2 calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Hero bets [$3.27 USD]
Player2 raises [$8.00 USD]
Hero raises [$25.10 USD]
Player2 calls [$13.65 USD]
Hero wins $6.72 USD
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Hero shows [, ]
Player2 shows [, ]
Player2 wins $45.90 USD from main pot

Hey I'm new just played this hand out on Stars and wondered what people thought, I'm never happy playing Jacks like most but here I dont know if I'm in the wrong or he is.
I 3bet him pre, I'm OOP so want to make him pay to see a flop right?
On the flop 75% pop it, boards low, I'm happy to take it down now and let him fold.
He repops me to 8...this is where I'm not sure whether I should be shoving? Like I actually did, flatting or even folding.

Neil

[MC]

50p

[Rupert]

flat pre he's way too tight to 3 bet. don't jam the flop he's super polarised and calling twice will be better

[cambridgealex]

Jacks is one of my favourite starting hands in holdem. 4th infact, behind aces, kings and queens.

[Bully87]

50p?

And very clever Alex...

Rupert - Thanks...I guess I should be small balling instead of trying to force a fold. Shame he didn't miss..

[MC]

Sorry it felt like a results orientated post, perhaps I was wrong.

[Bully87]

Not at all. I've only started using HEM recently and trying to improve but I just wanted to know what other/better players would have done with the data available which is why I posted up the stats too. But thanks for the antagonistic reply, much appreciated!

[Rupert]

87 hands isn't an especially significant sample but it's enough to know he's tighter than most.  22+,A8s+,KJs+,QJs,A9o+,KJo+,QJo is 16% of hands, think how tight that range is!  He's going to be opening even less than that probably something like 12% of hands which will include all pairs and strong broadways.  He looks down at JTs and thinks it's an easy fold.  Because he's a nit, he's also not going to want to put chips in postflop.  He's going to 4 bet you with QQ+ AK, maybe sometimes not even QQ or AK.  He's very very rarely going to 4 bet bluff you so we don't have to worry about that.  When he calls he has something like 99-JJ, AQ (and sometimes KQs and AJs).  That's fine our hand does very well against that range but when we can keep in every pair and all this broadway stuff that has bad equity against us we can make more money.  Think when the flop comes 24T and you check raise, there's so many hands he's not gonna know wtf to do with, like AK he's not really going to want to fold (but probably will), AT KT you stack always, 88 doesn't know what to do etc all these hands woulda folded pre and obviously there's lots of boards like this.  Also he's going to be the type of villain that isn't going to bluff multiple barrels (cos he's a nit).  So when the flop comes K72 and he cbets you check call, if he bets the turn you can safely c/f unimproved.

[TheFallen]

flat pre he's way too tight to 3 bet. don't jam the flop he's super polarised and calling twice will be better

Rup, thoughts on calling flop, jamming non flush or Ace turn(if they were slightly deeper and could price out FD) vs. calling turn and river?