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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2011, 08:40:24 PM »

ok he folded i took pot just wondered if he called with worse and if my bet was a value bet

i thought at time i might of been better check calling/jamming (to please pheno)
but went for the value bet idea it failed
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2011, 08:44:31 PM »

3b folding all my 3b bluffs 3b calling 77+ ATs+ possible KQs

but i am a luck box that need to get these type hands to win pots when i get

them as i am card dead for most of the time and never seem to find hands or poistions everyone else keep

talking about to keep my stack in place

If you look at the bit in bold you can see why I said your thoughts and your actions conflict with each other.

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3b AJ pre from bb as i am ahead of most peoples range if i get 4b i can get awa losing the minium to better hands without folding to worse

But above you say you're calling off with ATs? Which one is it.

FWIW calling a 4bet or a 4 bet shove with AT or AJ is super spewy in micro donkaments.

i've found that when i defend out of blinds i get 4b shoved by Ax and small pairs and Kx enough to make these spews profitable
again i play tighter when my seat in comp is at risk but in this spot i would be left with an average stack
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2011, 08:45:47 PM »

but in saying all that i used to be a rock but have widen my game up now maybe a little too much which is why i post so my line check posts
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2011, 09:06:12 PM »

but in saying all that i used to be a rock but have widen my game up now maybe a little too much which is why i post so my line check posts

It's fair enough widening up your game, but 3betting AJo OOP is going to get you in a lot of horrible spots.

Let's forget for a second you're playing a micro donkament, if you think you're ahead vs most players there's nothing wrong with flatting in this spot. By 3betting vs a good player when he's nearly 40bb deep he can 4bet shove almost ATC which causes you to think FML can I really call off here? Or he can flat and see an ace high board and get very aggro in a pot we've unnecessarily inflated pre.

Flatting the flop is just bad imo too. If the turn comes a Q or K you're going to hate it. He's already stuck 45% of his stack in, so cram it in his face. Better yet if you want to flat, just check the turn, it's the way ahead/way behind scenario in that spot as he almost never calls with worse and we can get him to bluff shove the turn and snap it off.

I'm also very surprised you think micro donkament players are 4bet shoving light. I've rarely experienced that. Infact, I tend to find that 99% of the field are so incapable of balancing their ranges that most 3 bets are almost exclusively only with their big hands so 4betting tends only to be the top 10% of hands.
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2011, 09:10:55 PM »

but in saying all that i used to be a rock but have widen my game up now maybe a little too much which is why i post so my line check posts

It's fair enough widening up your game, but 3betting AJo OOP is going to get you in a lot of horrible spots.

Let's forget for a second you're playing a micro donkament, if you think you're ahead vs most players there's nothing wrong with flatting in this spot. By 3betting vs a good player when he's nearly 40bb deep he can 4bet shove almost ATC which causes you to think FML can I really call off here? Or he can flat and see an ace high board and get very aggro in a pot we've unnecessarily inflated pre.

Flatting the flop is just bad imo too. If the turn comes a Q or K you're going to hate it. He's already stuck 45% of his stack in, so cram it in his face. Better yet if you want to flat, just check the turn, it's the way ahead/way behind scenario in that spot as he almost never calls with worse and we can get him to bluff shove the turn and snap it off.

I'm also very surprised you think micro donkament players are 4bet shoving light. I've rarely experienced that. Infact, I tend to find that 99% of the field are so incapable of balancing their ranges that most 3 bets are almost exclusively only with their big hands so 4betting tends only to be the top 10% of hands.


i only ever play mirco comps and alot of the time they see late posistion a hand better than average q9 and cant fold it as they have poistion and they think they have a right to the pot
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