Two pair on a straight draw flushing flop in 3way 3bet cash pot.

[Pinchop73]

Hi.

The exact details of the following hand are sketchy, but I find myself in this spot now and again, and I'm always so unsure whether to commit of fold that I always take the aggressive option.

Cash game. Sat on around 85bb's. All other players have me covered easily apart from H/J who has a little more, 90bb's.

UTG+1 I open 3bb's with   , get flatted by the H/J, C/O then 3bet's to 11bb's. I peel, H/J peels.

Flop   (pot 33 bb's)

Hero bets 30bb's

H/J flats

C/O raises to 75bb's.

Hero calls.

H/J calls.

[George2Loose]

Ouch. Fold pre twice.

Check/fold flop

[Pinchop73]

My thoughts here.

I'm going to discount the fact that I've called a 3bet oop with a marginal hand, as it's the flop I am most interested in and is the reason I began the thread.

So the flop. Puuuuuuuuuuuke!

Three handed I can't give the other two credit for a flopped flush, or a flopped straight, I just can't. But I can certainly see one of them having the nut draw so decide to pot it in an attempt to block.

Once the H/J comes over the top of the c/o's flat I feel I'm pretty much committed to the pot and call, knowing full well that I'm probably already beat, but I more than likely have 4 outs still. <clutching at straws>

Is this just a super cold deck and we have too much equity to fold?

Or do we genuinely c/f in this spot on most occasions?

[George2Loose]

This whole situation has come about due to a bad decision to peel pre when you're not nearly deep enough.

Yes you're clutching at straws bigtime- esp if you think someone is going to give the As to your pot sized bet

Embrace the variance now I spose (my check/fold flop was tongue in cheek)

[muckthenuts]

What George said

[Pinchop73]

Cheers guys, understood.

Now say that we are all 300bb's deep.

WWYD?

[George2Loose]

Cheers guys, understood.

Now say that we are all 300bb's deep.

WWYD?

Get up and sit at a 1/2 table

[George2Loose]

Seriously if you're 300 bigs deep it's pretty difficult to surmise but I would be trying to get to showdown as cheaply as possible. Folding on this flop isn't outside the realms of possibility given how wet this board is

[Rupert]

Ouch. Fold pre twice.

Check/jam flop

[giveyourcash]

For the purpose of analysis I'm assuming this is live. Don't open middling hands in EP. It's pointless. Q8s is a hand you can limp or fold depending on how good you are post compared to the rest of the table. In the online world limp fold is the vomitest play ever but live it's super profitable. You're hoping to start the infamous cascade of limpers and get the pot like 7 ways with a good multiway hand and use your superior (we hope) post flop skill to take tha mobnies.

Once you're 3 bet, realise you're not at all deep, accept the 3bb loss as a cheap lesson and watch this one from the sidelines. Once you get to this flop, I actually like the donk but make it smaller 22 or maybe even less and fold to raises especially ones after flats.

[Pinchop73]

Thanks giveyourcash, appreciate your input.

[JK]

I played this exact hand as the CO last week... Slightly different PF/Flop. Where was this?

[Pinchop73]

*That awkward moment when you realise that you've been levelling a guy on a forum that you shook hands with live because you respected his playing ability.*  <embarrassed smiley>

So anyway, yeah, apologies for the levels (I hope you found them as funny as I did! Ha), and well played getting the triple up! Still can't believe how the flop hit all three of us so hard. See you on the tables soon. Cheers you

[JK]

Lmao, absolutely brilliant . Couldn't make this stuff up lol. Well done on owning my soul in almost every post you've made