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« on: January 12, 2012, 10:22:42 PM »

Hey guys, been adjusting some points in my game and changed a lot of my tendancies in the blinds

I used to when starting out flat in the blinds vs one raiser. Then realised that esp if regs are opening in CO/BTNi invariably lost money because their range was wide. So assuming im talking bout decent aggresive regs:

I started to 3-bet then realised this just got me in spots where i got 4bet or just played oop to a good reg in a 3 bet pot

then i thought forget it and just folded. This however felt far too nitty and seemed to not be a good solution

so now i decided that if regs were 4 betting enough i would actually 5bet bluff shove with 22-77.

This got laughed at by my mate who said tjis was terrible and would rather do that with a2-8. (we then realised that the equity vs a regs 4bet/get it in range you are 33% with 22-77 and 31% with a2-5
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 10:23:52 PM »

Any thoughts?
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 10:45:11 PM »

peeling HU to a single open is pretty bad imo.

I would be 3betting ONLY vs active 4betters with a view to 5bet jam. 3Betting vs low 4bet's or low fold to 3bets is bad as well because these small pairs flop pretty poorly in general, terrible visibility, almost impossible to fully realise or protect your equity without flopping a set and in order to continue you're going to end up bluff catching with the bottom of your range vs villains who can aoften play near perfect vs you.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 11:49:54 PM »

peeling HU to a single open is pretty bad imo.

I would be 3betting ONLY vs active 4betters with a view to 5bet jam. 3Betting vs low 4bet's or low fold to 3bets is bad as well because these small pairs flop pretty poorly in general, terrible visibility, almost impossible to fully realise or protect your equity without flopping a set and in order to continue you're going to end up bluff catching with the bottom of your range vs villains who can aoften play near perfect vs you.

Not sure I'm 100% understanding you here Dave.Bearing in mind you may not have enough history on a player...

Peeling = Bad. (most likely flop badly/get outplayed post flop)
3 bet into unknown 4 bettor...is potentially v bad

So do we...

Fold

or

Take the initiative, hold our balls n shove???

imo. Peeling = bad, 3betting without knowledge of how our oppon reacts to 3bets = DEFO bad, folding = Never bad

If i 3bet here, it's almmost entirely because I'm planning to 5bet jam
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 12:02:13 AM »

are you saying that you would 5 bet jam any hand that you three bet from this position or just the 22-77?
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 12:22:34 AM »

are you saying that you would 5 bet jam any hand that you three bet from this position or just the 22-77?

DEFO not saying that.

What I'm saying is that if I decided to 3bet 44 (for e.g) from the SB it would almost certainly be because I expect the oppo to be 4betting a high frequency and I plan to 5bet JAM. I'd DEFO nott pick a low PP to 3bet fold vs a player like this as it's kind of ugly from an equity perspective.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 12:28:04 AM »

are you saying that you would 5 bet jam any hand that you three bet from this position or just the 22-77?

DEFO not saying that.

What I'm saying is that if I decided to 3bet 44 (for e.g) from the SB it would almost certainly be because I expect the oppo to be 4betting a high frequency and I plan to 5bet JAM. I'd DEFO nott pick a low PP to 3bet fold vs a player like this as it's kind of ugly from an equity perspective.

This. I kind of braught this up as an example to show how different your tendancies are and should be vs diff people. I used to play hands a very set way and think about who i was playing them against only once i had seen a flop. Hope it helps some people.
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