question on betting odds each way

[anthonyl]

Hi,

I am pretty useless at understanding how odds are calculated. I have a few football accumulators running, and don't know what kind of return I could get for each of the ones left remaining.

E.g.

£12.50 EW (total stake £25, top 3 1/4 odds) on:

5/1 - West Ham
11/2 - Hudders
3/1 - Crawley
11/4 - Luton

and

16/1 - Blackpool
8/1 - Charlton
20/1 - Southend
4/1 - Fleetwood

How is the return impacted say if say two come 1st, and two come 3rd?
cheers!!

[ACE2M]

http://www.gambling-guru.com/bet-calculator

[calella]

I take it that they are two separate £12.50 e/w Accas mate?

The return is impacted hugely by either all winning or 1 or more not winning as in the first example if all 4 win then your returns would be £7,312.50(win part of bet) + £197.26(Place part of bet), giving a total return of £7,509.76 BUT, if you had 3 winners and one 2nd for example then you only win the E/W(Place) part of the bet which is £197.26.

Of course you could get the nightmare scenario of getting 3 winners and one finishing 4th in which case you would get the square root of fekkk all.

Hope that helps mate.

Jimmy

[anthonyl]

I take it that they are two separate £12.50 e/w Accas mate?

The return is impacted hugely by either all winning or 1 or more not winning as in the first example if all 4 win then your returns would be £7,312.50(win part of bet) + £197.26(Place part of bet), giving a total return of £7,509.76 BUT, if you had 3 winners and one 2nd for example then you only win the E/W(Place) part of the bet which is £197.26.

Of course you could get the nightmare scenario of getting 3 winners and one finishing 4th in which case you would get the square root of fekkk all.

Hope that helps mate.

Jimmy

cheers.

Erm each one ive done on bet365 has total stake £25, EW £12.50, doubles my stake for each one i did for some reason.

thanks for the link Ace too.

[calella]

If you seriously have no idea of betting then not sure you want to know how much Blackpool are letting you down for if the other 3 in your 2nd bet all win their leagues(all top at moment) but if you had West Ham from other bet you would have a serious sweat on till end of season.

I make it about £200K!!, though why on earth you'd want to bet £12.50 e/w on two separate bets all in the same leagues puzzles me but then again you might be at the wind up, but if you're not then i'm 

[anthonyl]

I'm not on a wind up - I put in the accumulators, and £12.50 in the stake box, and then i ticked EW, and it doubles the stake.

Southend won't win the league anyway, have West Ham in most others, and Swindon. FML.

[calella]

Well good luck anyone with both bets, im sure you will get at least one of them up for the place which at worst will be worth almost £200.

If you are gambling E/W then the bet is automatically twice what your stake is as they are in effect two separate bets.

Think of the E/W as being WIN/PLACE to simplify it.

Jimmy