Scoop event 27-L hand, TP+NFD facing large overbet shove

[The_Don90]

Normally i never fold this kind of hand but given situation of the shove im not 100% sure its right to call, just thought id post for discussions

 #2012050271, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (300/600) - 2012/05/16 2:06:14 WET [2012/05/15 21:06:14 ET]
Table '2012050271 385' 9-max Seat #9 is the button


Seat 1: messkunst (11195 in chips)
Seat 2: the_donscott (34519 in chips)
Seat 3: __2cb__ (43852 in chips)
Seat 4: Luís Corrêa (59234 in chips)
Seat 5: jorguhna (25994 in chips)
Seat 6: YANTAN 777 (25311 in chips)
Seat 7: tutz_aml (4512 in chips)
Seat 8: Expolive (36531 in chips)
Seat 9: Mzungu (28895 in chips)



messkunst: posts the ante 70
the_donscott: posts the ante 70
__2cb__: posts the ante 70
Luís Corrêa: posts the ante 70
jorguhna: posts the ante 70
YANTAN 777: posts the ante 70
tutz_aml: posts the ante 70
Expolive: posts the ante 70
Mzungu: posts the ante 70
messkunst: posts small blind 300
the_donscott: posts big blind 600



*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_donscott [ ]




__2cb__: folds
Luís Corrêa: folds
jorguhna: folds
YANTAN 777: folds
tutz_aml: folds
Expolive: raises 1200 to 1800
Mzungu: folds
messkunst: folds
the_donscott: calls 1200



*** FLOP *** [  ]
the_donscott: checks
Expolive: bets 34661 and is all-in
the_donscott: ?

[WotRTheChances]

3-bet or fold pre. I guess fold is the correct thing to do now... not sure what he shows up with here.  ,  would be nice to up against... could have 2x2x.... not entirely sure of a reason a fish could come up with for shoving Ax on this flop. For the fact that there are so many people giving it away in these comps, i'd just fold and get it in good in a less ridic variance/puke spot.

[pleno1]

Unsure about pre so dont want to comment but flop is an abs no brainer kiss the dog and tell her you love her call

[The_Don90]

Unsure about pre so dont want to comment but flop is an abs no brainer kiss the dog and tell her you loved her call

lol i havent been around on blonde for long and struggled to find posts to comment on with any valid input, although loving reading lots. But this has to be one of the fav statements ive heard on any forum.

[Rupert]

wp call

[cambridgealex]

not folding. you're never <50% here and of course you're getting the right price even if he shoves 1 mirrion into a pot of 1000 you're getting the right price.

[TommyD]

As you know I've commented on this hand next door.  Just adding here to the 'call' camp.  I stand by what I said across the way that we are ahead a lot here and have a bunch of equity anyway.  Still maintaining it's a 3bet/fold spot pre though however I'm more than open to be told overwise.

Saw the result on your Twitter now as well, won't spoil it.

[pleno1]

the 3bet is going to be a lot larger than normal because he has 3x'd it so we are risking more of our stack than normal by 3betting.

[TL900]

fold pre, dont 3bet a 3x'ing fish who flats ADL OOP. call now, and send some highfives about.

[The_Don90]

thanks for replies folkes,

pre flop is pretty bad, the guy was cbet folding alot so planned to make a move on any flop, obv hitting this then that happened kind of startled me a little.

[pleno1]

Seems like a bad way tO adjust tbh.. I'd just call bigger hands oop and let him barrel off to us when we have good showdown hands.