Sunday 500 spot

[BorntoBubble]

PokerStars Hand #81449919489: Tournament #575020018, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2012/06/03 23:45:30 WET [2012/06/03 18:45:30 ET]
Table '575020018 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: P4K3R Face (44658 in chips)
Seat 2: thipoker10 (40773 in chips)
Seat 3: nadalon (49180 in chips)
Seat 4: moukari6 (25002 in chips)
Seat 5: -MortenVM- (14000 in chips)
Seat 6: Podlodka2001 (18596 in chips)
Seat 7: bigoots (14606 in chips)
Seat 8: Da3dalus (22648 in chips)
Seat 9: murballz66 (6225 in chips)
P4K3R Face: posts the ante 40
thipoker10: posts the ante 40
nadalon: posts the ante 40
moukari6: posts the ante 40
-MortenVM-: posts the ante 40
Podlodka2001: posts the ante 40
bigoots: posts the ante 40
Da3dalus: posts the ante 40
murballz66: posts the ante 40
moukari6: posts small blind 200
-MortenVM-: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to P4K3R Face [Ah ]
Podlodka2001: folds
bigoots: folds
Da3dalus: folds
murballz66: folds
P4K3R Face: raises 400 to 800
thipoker10: calls 800
nadalon: calls 800
moukari6: folds
-MortenVM-: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [ ]
-MortenVM-: checks
P4K3R Face: bets 2025
thipoker10: calls 2025
nadalon: folds
-MortenVM-: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
P4K3R Face: checks
thipoker10: bets 4000

only 9 hands on the villan no info

Should i check this turn? Or bet/fold? now should i flat or just pass?

Flop should i make it bigger/smaller? Such a horrible bored for my hand 4 ways

Help please

[jezza777]

Easy to say now but given stacks and antes I think a little more juice pre. I don't think checking the turn is good . I think  barrel fold maybe ?

[skolsuper]

Check flop, calling now as played.

[muckthenuts]

Yeah i think flop is fairly close but checking probably better. As played i'd just fold turn now.

[SuuPRlim]

+1 not c-betting

[BorntoBubble]

thanks for the feedback if we dont bet the flop what route are we taking if say the button then raises? chk call flop chk fold turn?

I passed the turn was a bit of a meh spot and was playing well even though this  tornement was way above mynormal level!

Lost a big pot to WizardOfAhhs when my JJ got beat by his A9 then..

My exist hand was when i have 20BB 150 left bubble is 108 and it is a big bubble for me around $800 as this is way above normal level is a lot!... im sat around 120th so thinking i cannot really hang on for the bubble..

I min click the cut off with AJ off
Button almost min 3 bets my raise is 2k he makes it around 4.1 it folds back to me and i jam he has AK and i dont improve

Im thinking this is pretty standard but in the heat of the moment i was thinking i could have folded and waited for a better spot.

Any suggestions i dont think i had that many hands on the guy at the time mabye around 30!

Again much apprieated for the feedback!

[youthnkzR]

fold pre!

[railtard1]

fold pre!

This is what REALLY annoys me. PHA needs to be regulated against things like this. It is off putting for people (including me) to take time to post. I play the sunday 500 every week, and won it before (sorry for brag), so i am probably able to give a good response about some spots, but then i read a comment, that is in NO WAY funny, in NO WAY constructive and can in NO WAY be serious if you understand how the game of NL holdem works and i just cnt be botherd to take the time to post.
I think people who just troll the PHA and write things like this should be banned from posting in PHA.

Poker hand analysis is something that everyone has used to help improve there games, everyone is at a different standard of play and its good hearing all responses to hands, but someone saying "fold pre" in a spot where obviously folding pre is something you should be doing 0% of the time, really annoys me and if the only input people want is to try and get laughs, then mayeb post on a joke thread, instead of PHA, where there is generally some excellent advice.

AND BREATHE... lol

[pokerfan]

fold pre!

This is what REALLY annoys me. PHA needs to be regulated against things like this. It is off putting for people (including me) to take time to post. I play the sunday 500 every week, and won it before (sorry for brag), so i am probably able to give a good response about some spots, but then i read a comment, that is in NO WAY funny, in NO WAY constructive and can in NO WAY be serious if you understand how the game of NL holdem works and i just cnt be botherd to take the time to post.
I think people who just troll the PHA and write things like this should be banned from posting in PHA.

Poker hand analysis is something that everyone has used to help improve there games, everyone is at a different standard of play and its good hearing all responses to hands, but someone saying "fold pre" in a spot where obviously folding pre is something you should be doing 0% of the time, really annoys me and if the only input people want is to try and get laughs, then mayeb post on a joke thread, instead of PHA, where there is generally some excellent advice.

AND BREATHE... lol

That's in reference to the AJ hand not the op.
That's how i read it anyway.
 Guess he can fold it if the $800 is a chunk.

[railtard1]

fold pre!

This is what REALLY annoys me. PHA needs to be regulated against things like this. It is off putting for people (including me) to take time to post. I play the sunday 500 every week, and won it before (sorry for brag), so i am probably able to give a good response about some spots, but then i read a comment, that is in NO WAY funny, in NO WAY constructive and can in NO WAY be serious if you understand how the game of NL holdem works and i just cnt be botherd to take the time to post.
I think people who just troll the PHA and write things like this should be banned from posting in PHA.

Poker hand analysis is something that everyone has used to help improve there games, everyone is at a different standard of play and its good hearing all responses to hands, but someone saying "fold pre" in a spot where obviously folding pre is something you should be doing 0% of the time, really annoys me and if the only input people want is to try and get laughs, then mayeb post on a joke thread, instead of PHA, where there is generally some excellent advice.

AND BREATHE... lol

That's in reference to the AJ hand not the op.
That's how i read it anyway.
 Guess he can fold it if the $800 is a chunk.

ah ok, in that case, the post isnt directed at that guy, but i see it alot, when its really not needed.

[pokerfan]

fold pre!

This is what REALLY annoys me. PHA needs to be regulated against things like this. It is off putting for people (including me) to take time to post. I play the sunday 500 every week, and won it before (sorry for brag), so i am probably able to give a good response about some spots, but then i read a comment, that is in NO WAY funny, in NO WAY constructive and can in NO WAY be serious if you understand how the game of NL holdem works and i just cnt be botherd to take the time to post.
I think people who just troll the PHA and write things like this should be banned from posting in PHA.

Poker hand analysis is something that everyone has used to help improve there games, everyone is at a different standard of play and its good hearing all responses to hands, but someone saying "fold pre" in a spot where obviously folding pre is something you should be doing 0% of the time, really annoys me and if the only input people want is to try and get laughs, then mayeb post on a joke thread, instead of PHA, where there is generally some excellent advice.

AND BREATHE... lol

That's in reference to the AJ hand not the op.
That's how i read it anyway.
 Guess he can fold it if the $800 is a chunk.

ah ok, in that case, the post isnt directed at that guy, but i see it alot, when its really not needed.

Yeah get your point.

[BorntoBubble]

fold pre!

This is what REALLY annoys me. PHA needs to be regulated against things like this. It is off putting for people (including me) to take time to post. I play the sunday 500 every week, and won it before (sorry for brag), so i am probably able to give a good response about some spots, but then i read a comment, that is in NO WAY funny, in NO WAY constructive and can in NO WAY be serious if you understand how the game of NL holdem works and i just cnt be botherd to take the time to post.
I think people who just troll the PHA and write things like this should be banned from posting in PHA.

Poker hand analysis is something that everyone has used to help improve there games, everyone is at a different standard of play and its good hearing all responses to hands, but someone saying "fold pre" in a spot where obviously folding pre is something you should be doing 0% of the time, really annoys me and if the only input people want is to try and get laughs, then mayeb post on a joke thread, instead of PHA, where there is generally some excellent advice.

AND BREATHE... lol

And understand your grip marc but in this spot youthinkr is one of my mates who i was speaking to on skype at the same time and we were discussing the AJ hand i i was just saying how $800 would have been a nice place to work from as Sunday i said this will be my last time depositing in stars for a while! THen i get in sunday 500 and think all is looking rosey!

I understand the fold pre line winding up i get that but no harm was caused to myself! Hope this explains a little i no youthinkr hasent got a fold pre button anyway so no chance he does that!

Anyway..

Thanks again for input on the hand mabye one day i can play the sunday 500 every week with the big boys!

[railtard1]

fold pre!

This is what REALLY annoys me. PHA needs to be regulated against things like this. It is off putting for people (including me) to take time to post. I play the sunday 500 every week, and won it before (sorry for brag), so i am probably able to give a good response about some spots, but then i read a comment, that is in NO WAY funny, in NO WAY constructive and can in NO WAY be serious if you understand how the game of NL holdem works and i just cnt be botherd to take the time to post.
I think people who just troll the PHA and write things like this should be banned from posting in PHA.

Poker hand analysis is something that everyone has used to help improve there games, everyone is at a different standard of play and its good hearing all responses to hands, but someone saying "fold pre" in a spot where obviously folding pre is something you should be doing 0% of the time, really annoys me and if the only input people want is to try and get laughs, then mayeb post on a joke thread, instead of PHA, where there is generally some excellent advice.

AND BREATHE... lol

And understand your grip marc but in this spot youthinkr is one of my mates who i was speaking to on skype at the same time and we were discussing the AJ hand i i was just saying how $800 would have been a nice place to work from as Sunday i said this will be my last time depositing in stars for a while! THen i get in sunday 500 and think all is looking rosey!

I understand the fold pre line winding up i get that but no harm was caused to myself! Hope this explains a little i no youthinkr hasent got a fold pre button anyway so no chance he does that!

Anyway..

Thanks again for input on the hand mabye one day i can play the sunday 500 every week with the big boys!

ah ok cool. yeh wasnt directly complaining about ur buddy, was just saying that PHA is so good for everyone to learn! Its a easy, free, comfortable and intelligent for everyone to learn and discuss, and its great if we can keep it like this.
glgl

[corkeye]

Yeah in a multi way pot, and the fact that the board is super wet and we're OOP, i'm happy with checking flop and resisting a C bet, folding most bets tbh unless its tiny and we get a fantastic price. If it was heads up its worth a stab occasionally on the flop, but with all these players in, one of them at least is going to hit this flop hard, either a straight, flush and/or combo draw, with obvs a ton of horrible turn cards possible.

If you think about it, people who call pre are more likely to hit this flop harder than those that raise/reraise pre.

As played shut down turn good fold. Calling turn or raising is highly optimistic/spewy and villain is barrelling all rivers at you

[pleno1]

million most people c/f aces here.