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« on: June 07, 2012, 08:27:17 PM »

its anonymous. no reads obv, thoughts on it all?



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$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 07, 09:15:47 ET 2012
Table Anon Holdem 11  400 Max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $684.30 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.8, Hands: 164
Seat 2: Player2 ( $404.53 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 11, AF: 4.2, Hands: 176
Seat 3: Player3 ( $1128.00 USD ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 2.1, Hands: 174
Seat 4: Player4 ( $248.00 USD ) - VPIP: 37, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 2.3, Hands: 116
Seat 5: Hero ( $554.00 USD ) - VPIP: 31, PFR: 24, 3B: 11, AF: 2.5, Hands: 42542
Seat 6: Player6 ( $394.00 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 12, AF: 3.0, Hands: 168
Player1 posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
Dealt to Hero [  ]
Player3 raises [$12.00 USD]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$40.00 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 calls [$28.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , three clubs ]
Player3 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
Player3 bets [$124.00 USD]
Hero calls [$124.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Player3 bets [$964.00 USD]
Hero calls [$390.00 USD]
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 09:28:46 PM »

Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 10:24:51 PM »

can you post the range you gave him mate?
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 02:33:32 PM »

has no-one noticed the fact hes overbet turn and overbet river?
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 12:49:51 AM »

Haha jj you feel like your getting slow rolled the results Wink I think it's a call on phone so not much space for explanation more hands your beating then loosing to basically!!
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 12:27:05 PM »

Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want.

Think it's also pretty much the bottom of our range to 3b pre and call the turn overbet. Also, I know this overbet line is kind of in fashion right now, but this is a terrible board run out for it, I personally think a bluff is v unlikely and don't think we beat any value hands.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 03:52:58 PM »

yeh i paid the man and he had the king queen of green.

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2012, 06:29:08 PM »

I like the flop check agree these overbet lines often are unbalanced and value heavy if we're sposed to fold where are we sposed to fold? The turn or the river?

Both seem s very hard to fold in a vacuum.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 07:35:02 PM »

I like the flop check agree these overbet lines often are unbalanced and value heavy if we're sposed to fold where are we sposed to fold? The turn or the river?

Both seem s very hard to fold in a vacuum.

The river, and honestly I'd find it pretty easy.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2012, 01:31:51 PM »

Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want.

Think it's also pretty much the bottom of our range to 3b pre and call the turn overbet. Also, I know this overbet line is kind of in fashion right now, but this is a terrible board run out for it, I personally think a bluff is v unlikely and don't think we beat any value hands.

Well I could be way off the mark with my post, I don't play 6 max nl online very much nowadays. If someone who is more in tune with the games gives me a population read that this is always a value line then I'm fine with going with that and folding. But I thought my post was appropriate because in a poker forum we aren't talking population reads most of the time, we're talking poker theory because that is the most appropriate subject for the context of poker forum. I can't stand threads that go round and round in circles with "no one does this as a bluff" or "everyone is light here nowadays". In this case and at the risk of sounding like a massive donk, we didn't check the flop to fold to a turn and river bet on this runout. If the fact that villain overbet makes you want to change your mind and make an exploitative play by folding then that is obviously fine.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2012, 02:06:02 PM »

Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want.

Think it's also pretty much the bottom of our range to 3b pre and call the turn overbet. Also, I know this overbet line is kind of in fashion right now, but this is a terrible board run out for it, I personally think a bluff is v unlikely and don't think we beat any value hands.

Well I could be way off the mark with my post, I don't play 6 max nl online very much nowadays. If someone who is more in tune with the games gives me a population read that this is always a value line then I'm fine with going with that and folding. But I thought my post was appropriate because in a poker forum we aren't talking population reads most of the time, we're talking poker theory because that is the most appropriate subject for the context of poker forum. I can't stand threads that go round and round in circles with "no one does this as a bluff" or "everyone is light here nowadays". In this case and at the risk of sounding like a massive donk, we didn't check the flop to fold to a turn and river bet on this runout. If the fact that villain overbet makes you want to change your mind and make an exploitative play by folding then that is obviously fine.

It's possible that the GTO line vs the river overbet is a fold whereas vs a normal sized bet would be a call.
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