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Oxford_HRV
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« on: June 19, 2012, 08:21:40 AM »

just finished my night shift at work, see the stars account has a little $12 to spin up ^_^

has to be the $1 unlimited rebuy!
1.7k entries
currently 12 of us left!

nonetheless i only needed the double buy in and add on... 1 time


Table '574831648 128' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: jan frizeru (1552766 in chips)
Seat 3: ozzy_style17 (772708 in chips)
Seat 4: Mañek (2631992 in chips)
Seat 5: HERO.. REALLY? (940154 in chips)
Seat 8: SUPER STACK VILLAIN (5145950 in chips)
Seat 9: 4JJJJ4J (1904921 in chips)
jan frizeru: posts the ante 15000
ozzy_style17: posts the ante 15000
Mañek: posts the ante 15000
HERO: posts the ante 15000
SUPERSTACKVILLAIN: posts the ante 15000
4JJJJ4J: posts the ante 15000
VILLAIN: posts small blind 75000
4JJJJ4J: posts big blind 150000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to THE HERO [ ]
jan frizeru: folds
ozzy_style17: folds
Mañek: folds
HERO: raises 180000 to 330000
HERO: raises 270000 to 600000
4JJJJ4J: folds
HERO: raises 325154 to 925154 and is all-in
VILLAIN: calls 325154
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
EVEN MORE SUPER STACK VILLAIN: shows [ ] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
HERO: shows [ ] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
VILLAIN collected 2090308 from pot
HERO finished the tournament in 12th place

In correlation to stack sizes dead money, ect.. what would your line be here?

any questions regarding table image, no real play just get a hand and go!, villain opens pretty much every pot and everyone just bows down and folds.



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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 08:53:52 AM »

just finished my night shift at work, see the stars account has a little $12 to spin up ^_^

has to be the $1 unlimited rebuy!
1.7k entries
currently 12 of us left!

nonetheless i only needed the double buy in and add on... 1 time


Table '574831648 128' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: jan frizeru (1552766 in chips)
Seat 3: ozzy_style17 (772708 in chips)
Seat 4: Mañek (2631992 in chips)
Seat 5: HERO.. REALLY? (940154 in chips)
Seat 8: SUPER STACK VILLAIN (5145950 in chips)
Seat 9: 4JJJJ4J (1904921 in chips)
jan frizeru: posts the ante 15000
ozzy_style17: posts the ante 15000
Mañek: posts the ante 15000
HERO: posts the ante 15000
SUPERSTACKVILLAIN: posts the ante 15000
4JJJJ4J: posts the ante 15000
VILLAIN: posts small blind 75000
4JJJJ4J: posts big blind 150000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to THE HERO [ ]
jan frizeru: folds
ozzy_style17: folds
Mañek: folds
HERO: raises 180000 to 330000
HERO: raises 270000 to 600000
4JJJJ4J: folds
HERO: raises 325154 to 925154 and is all-in
VILLAIN: calls 325154
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
EVEN MORE SUPER STACK VILLAIN: shows [ ] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
HERO: shows [ ] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
VILLAIN collected 2090308 from pot
HERO finished the tournament in 12th place

In correlation to stack sizes dead money, ect.. what would your line be here?

any questions regarding table image, no real play just get a hand and go!, villain opens pretty much every pot and everyone just bows down and folds.





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TD should have been called over when you reraised yourself preflop.  Just shove or fold pre, especially with an aggro villian on your left.  Ofc getting in the premeditated 3bet is a novel way of combatting his aggression.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 09:11:07 AM »

shove pre all day long

unlucky he had a hand, nice run though
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 09:18:18 AM »

I thought afterwards my optimal line should have been a shove
There is 315k dead in the pot and I made it 330k out of a 900k stack
I'm not raise folding 1/3 of my chips ofc.
Avg stack after the first break was a pretty consistent 12>BB
I'm interested in other peoples views and reasons on what they would do here regardless of the outcome
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 10:54:44 PM »

As discussed id shove pre or fold. You have less than 8 bigs on button with K high. Want to get ot in rather than call off. Make him struggle here without a hand.

What would you of done with AJ+?

The real question now after not folding or shoving, is can you get away? 1/3 of stack in middle plus the dead money probably makes it a call. Others may feel you can fold then jam on the shorter stacks.
Ie next hand or 2.

Any thoughts on that?

Nice run though. #grindingisbetterthan5bettingJ4o
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2012, 07:32:29 AM »

truewhat you are saying, i should shove....... but where was the runn good at!?
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 12:39:00 PM »

truewhat you are saying, i should shove....... but where was the runn good at!?

8bb with a suited king! get it in!!
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