Unsure on river spot nl50 zoom

[muckthenuts]

He's 23/5 over 21 hands, it's also saturday night so leaning toward assuming he's not great.

We make a decent pair on the riv. Bet small to get value out of worse pairs? C/f? C/c? Shove??

Also anything else in the hand you spot that isn't good lemme know, i'm very new to online cash.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $45.44
Hero (SB): $59.43
BB: $50.75
UTG: $27.77
MP: $53.94
CO: $82.76

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN calls $4.50

Flop: ($14.00) (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

Turn: ($30.00) (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($30.00) (2 players)
Hero?

[jezza777]

I am going to say bet $17 fold to a raise.

[pleno1]

I am going to say bet $17 fold to a raise.

why?

he's just going to bet ax most of the time ott because of how draw heavy the board is and for protection.

i prob c/evaluate and go with instinct, at 50nl zoom just c/f tho

[Yian]

I'd deffo check/call. He called the initial raise then called your 3b so he's taken none of the aggressive action himself, I'm going to agree with your assumption he's not great. Whilst I reckon he has Ax a bunch of times, he might check behind if he has a weak A that he played because it was suited but by check/calling at least you give him chance to fire with busted diamonds. 

[muckthenuts]

I'd deffo check/call. He called the initial raise then called your 3b so he's taken none of the aggressive action himself, I'm going to agree with your assumption he's not great. Whilst I reckon he has Ax a bunch of times, he might check behind if he has a weak A that he played because it was suited but by check/calling at least you give him chance to fire with busted diamonds.  

Yiannis Liperis itt?

Liking the divided responses so far! Just need someone to come in and argue he can never call if we shove and we'd have completed the PHA quadfecta on the first page

[cambridgealex]

probs c/folding

[pleno1]

The main reason for check calling would be that he should have an extremely thin value range Otr. Ie he is only betting 2pair+

[Honeybadger]

Also anything else in the hand you spot that isn't good lemme know

Probably better to flat rather than 3bet. Your hand plays well in a multiway pot since it is suited and your relative position is going to be good on the flop. It would be more interesting to 3bet if the raiser had been on the BTN with the flat caller in the SB and you in the BB.

[Yian]

I'd deffo check/call. He called the initial raise then called your 3b so he's taken none of the aggressive action himself, I'm going to agree with your assumption he's not great. Whilst I reckon he has Ax a bunch of times, he might check behind if he has a weak A that he played because it was suited but by check/calling at least you give him chance to fire with busted diamonds.  

Yiannis Liperis itt?

Liking the divided responses so far! Just need someone to come in and argue he can never call if we shove and we'd have completed the PHA quadfecta on the first page

Lol was just trying to get the thread pendulum swinging for you mate.

[SuuPRlim]

Agree with Stu r.e the 3bet nicer to squeeze if possible IMO 3betting has to be a fine play though cos of how good your hand is but it would be a real shame to get 4bet here when you could have played a multi-way pot with a great hand and decent stack depth.

personally having 3bet I'd be bombing off here, he can have TT, AT, I guess A3s also but your range is strong/uncapped (even though by the third bullet OTR you're repping AK/AT/AA which is quite thin) but his range is just weak bluff-catchers and I think those are spots you wanna be putting high pressure on your opponent cos it makes it impossible for him to make a "good decision" - OFC, this might/prolly is terrible advice for 50nl ZOOM though.

As played I think check/fold seems best although he prolly shouldn't have Ax but at the same time he should be betting the turn if he wants to bluff, chances are he has some sort of Tx seems thin that he'd call a decent value bet. You could try bet something like $6 try induce some silly bluff/get a crying call from a Ten (if that even works any more?)

[rfgqqabc]

Hope he got to showdown, whatever he has its pretty much been butchered

Check/jam seems kinda sweet, also don't hate the $6 line.

[pleno1]

c/jam is the worstr line by far

[AlexMartin]

Hope he got to showdown, whatever he has its pretty much been butchered

Check/jam seems kinda sweet, also don't hate the $6 line.

whaaaat? he has AJ/AT/set/funky bdfd- infact anything i dont mind his line. Get so much river spew and bad calldowns with a turn checkback.

[parker]

his hand is never winning on the flop surely? anything that flats the button then overcalls the oop 3bet cant be in great shape unless hes hit a very specific flop.

If he had we would have found out on the turn?

id check call/fold depending on his sizing. think we get value from worse. maybe some weird kind of j10 or 78dd type hand that he has to turn into a bluff.

alex wouldnt a set have raised flop/turn on such a wet board?

his line can never be very strong? call call call chk on such a wet board?

[rfgqqabc]

Hope he got to showdown, whatever he has its pretty much been butchered

Check/jam seems kinda sweet, also don't hate the $6 line.

whaaaat? he has AJ/AT/set/funky bdfd- infact anything i dont mind his line. Get so much river spew and bad calldowns with a turn checkback.

Shouldn't he raise/get in any nut hands on this flop. Maybe AJ/AQ is fine this way but not many other things. I