Thoughts on double check/raise line

[cambridgealex]

.FR 100euro freezeout.

PokerStars Hand #84723476550: Tournament #598726703, €91+€9 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2012/08/14 14:01:31 CT [2012/08/14 15:01:31 ET]
Table '598726703 15' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: liptonic185 (10000 in chips)
Seat 2: SLBG91 (9875 in chips)
Seat 3: ILuvLamb (9950 in chips)
Seat 4: checkfoldit (10000 in chips)
Seat 6: french r dum (10000 in chips)
Seat 7: mouflousis (10000 in chips)
Seat 8: jpigeon1 (10175 in chips)
Seat 9: Sr Croissant (10000 in chips)
ILuvLamb: posts small blind 25
checkfoldit: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sr Croissant [ ]
french r dum: folds
mouflousis: folds
jpigeon1: folds
Sr Croissant: raises 100 to 150
liptonic185: folds
SLBG91: calls 150
ILuvLamb: folds
checkfoldit: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [ ]
checkfoldit: checks
Sr Croissant: bets 250
SLBG91: calls 250
checkfoldit is disconnected
checkfoldit is connected
checkfoldit: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Sr Croissant: checks
SLBG91: bets 550
Sr Croissant: raises 850 to 1400
SLBG91: calls 850
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Sr Croissant: checks

My thoughts were he's probably folding 88-44 on the turn, perhaps not though. He may bet these anyway. He's obv betting a Ten, and will almost certainly bluff QJ, KJ KQ, 78 etc.

Similar applies for river. Thoughts?

[TL900]

yeah i like it and the thought process behind it.

[LonOhRay]

Yup for reasons stated

Bigger on flop though ~325 into 475? Doesn't change their calling ranges imo and this early in a .fr against randoms balance isn't important.

and 1650 on turn as played, if he has a T or a 78 QJ they just won't fold to bigger sizing from my experience.


If they do have draws and b/f river you've picked up more chips by increasing pot earlier and obv if he values his hand easier to get it in.

[AlexMartin]

.FR 100euro freezeout.

PokerStars Hand #84723476550: Tournament #598726703, €91+€9 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2012/08/14 14:01:31 CT [2012/08/14 15:01:31 ET]
Table '598726703 15' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: liptonic185 (10000 in chips)
Seat 2: SLBG91 (9875 in chips)
Seat 3: ILuvLamb (9950 in chips)
Seat 4: checkfoldit (10000 in chips)
Seat 6: french r dum (10000 in chips)
Seat 7: mouflousis (10000 in chips)
Seat 8: jpigeon1 (10175 in chips)
Seat 9: Sr Croissant (10000 in chips)
ILuvLamb: posts small blind 25
checkfoldit: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sr Croissant [ ]
french r dum: folds
mouflousis: folds
jpigeon1: folds
Sr Croissant: raises 100 to 150
liptonic185: folds
SLBG91: calls 150
ILuvLamb: folds
checkfoldit: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [ ]
checkfoldit: checks
Sr Croissant: bets 250
SLBG91: calls 250
checkfoldit is disconnected
checkfoldit is connected
checkfoldit: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Sr Croissant: checks
SLBG91: bets 550
Sr Croissant: raises 850 to 1400
SLBG91: calls 850
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Sr Croissant: checks

My thoughts were he's probably folding 88-44 on the turn, perhaps not though. He may bet these anyway. He's obv betting a Ten, and will almost certainly bluff QJ, KJ KQ, 78 etc.

Similar applies for river. Thoughts?

facing double cr we probably lockout his river bluffs.

[discomonkey]

its funky but cool, most people wont be nitty and cehcking back tx here, will maximise your value. just sucks when they cehck back any overpairs that they may be flatting pre.

[Bully87]

Best hope he has a T for stacking him.
A c/r of his river stabs with missed draws obvs gets some value if he's likely to fire.

Cant really say much without reads but the theory seems good.

[placewise]

Analysis seems fine. Although I would prefer to bet turn then check raise the river. If he has a draw you charge him on the turn and he may take a stab on the river. He is less likely to bluff the river after you check raise the turn as its pretty strong. If he has 10-x then he's calling turn and has to bet river and when you check raise river after betting turn feels more like a bluff than for value. He may fold 10-x if you check raise turn and river as its a super strong line and an overpair wouldn't play like that which u need to trp and represent to get value from 10-x

[AlexMartin]

note to self, read hhs properly. river cr is clearcut, although when i see a good player checkback JT/T9 i basically giveup.

[pleno1]

note to self, read hhs properly. river cr is clearcut, although when i see a good player checkback JT/T9 i basically giveup.

probably quite happy if they check back 109 met.

[discomonkey]

note to self, read hhs properly. river cr is clearcut, although when i see a good player checkback JT/T9 i basically giveup.

most people wont check back any form of ten here, especially good players, more likely to bet/fold than anything else.... obviously the fish are always gonna bet.

[AlexMartin]

note to self, read hhs properly. river cr is clearcut, although when i see a good player checkback JT/T9 i basically giveup.

probably quite happy if they check back 109 met.

[Rupert]

more interested on c/r the turn if you're bluffing. think it's a mistake you look super strong