Hand vs Vinkky

[action man]

i don't post hands that often, only ones which i feel compelled to send to players i respect on skype. Probs do this about 4 times a year.

background on villain is hyper aggro, good player, and big winner, he won the ept player of the year last season. I think however he can be pretty easy to induce, however he puts you in spots very
few others do, like this one.

Pre flop, im 4b/c vs villain. On flop im bet/calling  on the turn im c/c  on the turn it surprised me that he didnt bet, so assumed he had showdown value or maybe had just flopped the world.
on the river i check and... thoughts please.

This was int he big 109 about 60 players out.


PokerStars Hand #85656110578: Tournament #615010441, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (1200/2400) - 2012/09/03 22:27:10 WET [2012/09/03 17:27:10 ET]
Table '615010441 53' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Vinkyy (188496 in chips)
Seat 2: MYR767676 (47849 in chips)
Seat 3: Remislovas (56228 in chips)
Seat 4: jusc (43768 in chips)
Seat 5: KongenavU (41574 in chips)
Seat 6: Twengod (59515 in chips)
Seat 7: KSakuraba (48405 in chips)
Seat 8: ThEcLaiMEer (102882 in chips)
Vinkyy: posts the ante 300
MYR767676: posts the ante 300
Remislovas: posts the ante 300
jusc: posts the ante 300
KongenavU: posts the ante 300
Twengod: posts the ante 300
KSakuraba: posts the ante 300
ThEcLaiMEer: posts the ante 300
jusc: posts small blind 1200
KongenavU: posts big blind 2400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThEcLaiMEer [ ]
Twengod: folds
KSakuraba: folds
ThEcLaiMEer: raises 2400 to 4800
Vinkyy: raises 6000 to 10800
MYR767676: folds
Remislovas: folds
jusc: folds
KongenavU: folds
ThEcLaiMEer: raises 14095 to 24895
Vinkyy: calls 14095
*** FLOP *** [ ]
ThEcLaiMEer: bets 21600
Vinkyy: calls 21600
*** TURN *** [ ] []
ThEcLaiMEer: checks
Vinkyy: checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
ThEcLaiMEer: checks
Vinkyy: bets 62363

(sets us in)

[action man]

nobody...?

[smashedagain]

 I keep coming back to it mate but I know you don't want to know what I think.

Most of the people you would appreciate a view on won't be up before tea time.  Also there may be a slight reluctance to post because they know Trigg's nickname is "nobody". 

[tikay]

No need for me to comment, he already sent it to me on Skype.

[cambridgealex]

No need for me to comment, he already sent it to me on Skype.

[action man]

No need for me to comment, he already sent it to me on Skype.

there life in the old dog yet

[SuuPRlim]

it seems like a spot he could turn every hand he gets here with into a bluff.

However he can have the , the and the pretty easily and I think he'd jam them all for value, this (combined with the fact you prolly don't have the / ) makes it both a good spot for him to bluff with everything and prolly a spot you should fold.

I really am not sure though.

[SuuPRlim]

it's pretty hard for either of you to have a house but what % of the time do you think he thinks you would be 4b folding pf? The less he thinks you'll be 4bet folding pf the less likely you are to have / as your range to 4b/call will be mostly high card dominated and I think he'd expect most hands that include those two card to be played more aggressively at some point, possibly excluding Jx. Makes him way more likely to be bluffing.

[smashedagain]

it seems like a spot he could turn every hand he gets here with into a bluff.

However he can have the , the and the pretty easily and I think he'd jam them all for value, this (combined with the fact you prolly don't have the / ) makes it both a good spot for him to bluff with everything and prolly a spot you should fold.

I really am not sure though.

Morning

[MANTIS01]

1010 or JJ with club makes sense. He can obv have air. This is a marginal decision to call all-in as still 2nd in chips after folding. But villain knows that as well. But because he is hyper aggro he is prob expecting you to call lighter so it swings back to a fold for me.

[George2Loose]

1010 or JJ with club makes sense. He can obv have air. This is a marginal decision to call all-in as still 2nd in chips after folding. But villain knows that as well. But because he is hyper aggro he is prob expecting you to call lighter so it swings back to a fold for me.

But he knows u know that he knows that so call

[Whollyflush]

I think i would fold, your 4b seems quite large and id expect him to turn up with AcAx AcQx the majority of the time since your only about 40 bigs deep.

Once you flop ttkp in a 4b pot i guess you have to go with it. I do however prefer either betting smaller OTF or C/R.

[Oxford_HRV]

I like how you say you are bet calling on the flop, prefer leading out for 16/17k though, just because I think against real aggro players you get them in the spot on boards like this where they want to rep big so you can induce them to 3b/f with air
it's good to 4b huge pre for value here I think against this guy and I would follow the same line as you in game.
I can't see the guy hanging himself on the river here, he must have a club and we must hate life

[AlexMartin]

No need for me to comment, he already sent it to me on Skype.

love it