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aaron1867
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« on: January 03, 2013, 02:47:17 AM »

I seem to be getting a bit worried after seeing and hearing people having many different types of diet and stuck on mine. I also add I am wanting to tone the body up a little more, not to a point of I'm a muscle mary, but just so ya know I look better and not be scared to get my nipple out in Vegas.

After Xmas I have just about touched the 12st mark, but usually hang around 11-11.5 stone. I'm 5'8, so belly shows as generally not that tall.

You look through peoples suggestions and a lot are so varied, some say to cut carbs, nearly altogther, some say keep them, but count and get Myfitnesspal. I would say at this point, I need to cut them slightly, so lots of questions and some suggestions from you guys would be great.

- Foods to eat, tasty but not too heavy?

- What could i have instead of chips (?) to go with a meal, etc?

- What are best things to do in gym, fitness wise? I just do mostly running (not bad at that you know) & a few weights.

Notes about me:

- I love fizzy pop & tea. I actually have 3-4 sugar in my tea, fml.

- Big bread eater.

- eats lots of chips

- Also tend to be found in (enter city here) many different bars, drinking many different types of fattening alcohol

- Eat loads of snacks, chocolate, crisps, etc.

If I cut the above or cut them out altogether, I'd suggest that there is a lot of weight to be taken off there?

Obviously a great thread for all the people on diets and fitness fanatics! Teach me please Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 06:55:16 AM »

Don't diet. Eat healthily, have a balanced diet, exercise regularly.

If you want to run lots, then cutting out carbs seems a bad idea. Maybe cut down on the saturated fat?
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 07:04:58 AM »

First thing I would say is join the diet thread Aaron, there are many different ways to approach dieting and the best way I find is to keep it simple.

Obviously you don't want to withdraw the foods you like completely, that will just lead to rebounds, which I always have and you just end up regressing to yoru previous state (or worse).

If you're working in a calorific deficit over the week, you will lose weight and it's that simple. An easy way to do so is operating at 500 calories per day below your maintenance rate, this will see you lose 1lb a week without exercising and more if you're working out regularly.

When I'm dieting I try to keep proteins high, carbs under 100g and fats under 50g. That means with supplements I can get around 200g protein, 100g carbs and with under 50g fat I am around 500 below maintenance level.

1g of Protein = 4 calories
1g of Carbs   = 4 calories
1g of Fat       = 9 calories

I've never met you personally, but I would hazard a guess from your height/weight that you're not that thick set and of a medium build. I would guess that you don't need to ditch too much weight, so would be better cleaning up your diet which sounds terrible (like mine atm) and then using exercise to alter your body composition.

I don't like boiled or mashed potato, so that leaves me somewhat limited and the easy way to get around that is replace chips with Sweet Potato wedges.

Wash and cut one s/potato up like chips.

Spray a baking tray with 1cal, spread them evenly across it season, spray again and then cover with foil.

Bake for 20 minutes at Gas 5, remove foil turn them and then put back into the oven until they're cooked to your preference.

Much better for you and with a steak and some pepper sauce it's a nice meal!

Stir fries are an easy way to get good meals in without going overboard on carbs and crappy stuff.

Chicken Breast sliced
Stir Fry Pack
Soy Sauce
Garlic

Uncle Ben's rice or some Rice Noodles and you're away.

Can have a decent meal that's good for you in 20 minutes and it saves doing dough on takeaways too.


If you must drink pop make  it diet and replace the sugar with sweetener if you can't lower the amount of real sugar.

Bread has to go, or at least eaten very infrequently. It's one of my trigger foods and like many others I could sit and murder a Tiger loaf in a day no problem!

For chips see above.

I rarely drink anymore and haven't had a drink for almost 4months as it stands, but when I do it's normally Vodka and Diet Coke, or Gin and Slimline Tonic.

When I'm away on weekends, which is even more rarely I will still drink Sambuca, Jaegerbombs etc. and I don't worry because it's such a rarity. Also the fact I can't walk straight without a drink influences my habits too Cheesy

Replace the chocolate/crisps/crap with fruit,nuts or even vegetables like raw carrot if you can handle it (I can't)

I use protein bars, protein cookies and even protein desserts to quench the pangs for crap and of course once or twice a week allow yourself a treat!


I don't think you need to lose too much weight, but would benefit from recomposition of your body and just trimming yourself down by altering eating habits.

For the gym stuff a good mix of cardio and weights will work wonders. A 5x5 programme is often a good basis for beginners and will see the biggest changes in a short period of time.

Workout A

Squat 5×5   
Bench Press 5×5   
Barbell Rows 5×5

Workout B

Squat 5x5
Overhead Press 5x5
Deadlift 1x5


Those are all basic compound movements which will help workout your whole body, once you've had a few months on that you can refine your workout and start working on the areas that you feel need more work.



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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 07:12:33 AM »

I've got a really easy to use XL sheet which works everything out for you, all you have to enter is your weight/height/ age and it gives you exact figures to lose 1lb/2lb per week and the ratios of carbs/proteins/fats.

I do 50/25/25 because I don't need many carbs, I think the standard is 40/40/20 for people who do more cardio based exercise.

If you want me to e-mail it to you pm me your address and I'll fire it over.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 07:17:19 AM »

Thanks for that reply Mark.

Would you reccomend MFP?

Also, problem here is that I am not a great cook. I set the kitchen on fire in the middle of the year when I decided to cool the chip pan down with cold water, so rarely cook anything that isn't basic either.

I perhaps want to be in routine with food.

Breakfast - Toast/Fruit/Eggs?

Lunch - Fruit???

Dinner/Tea - Chicken/Fish/steak/beef with veg and Huh?

It seems I may have to do a lot of work into it.

What would you do as your diet? Not really a big eater only breakfast & dinner person really, so would be just a little idea for fruit at lunch?
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 07:18:48 AM »

Throw the chip pan away.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 07:26:08 AM »

That would be great Mark, than you very much. But I am just wondering if that does the same as MFP, which tracks everything you eat, etc?

Picture of my build - https://twitter.com/aaron1867/status/286733417750597632/photo/1 - Only (drunken) photo I could find that shows all body.

Obv going to join diet thread.

Mods feel free to lock thread, didn't realise about diet thread!
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 07:44:05 AM »

I have 2 spreadsheets, one is for bulking and one is cutting, it just helps you work out how much protein/carbs/fats you should be aiming for each day to meet targets.

You enter your stats and it gives you your BMR which is the calories you use daily, from that you can work out how much to chop off to lose weight and the correct ratios etc.

You definitely don't look overweight, so I would crack on with running and maybe look at that 5x5 I put up. That with a better diet will sort everything out in no time I'd imagine as I said you don't look terribly 'out of shape' per se.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2013, 08:19:52 AM »

What's a muscle Mary ?
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 08:25:06 AM »

Thanks for that reply Mark.

Would you reccomend MFP?

Also, problem here is that I am not a great cook. I set the kitchen on fire in the middle of the year when I decided to cool the chip pan down with cold water, so rarely cook anything that isn't basic either.

I perhaps want to be in routine with food.

Breakfast - Toast/Fruit/Eggs?

Lunch - Fruit???

Dinner/Tea - Chicken/Fish/steak/beef with veg and Huh?

It seems I may have to do a lot of work into it.

What would you do as your diet? Not really a big eater only breakfast & dinner person really, so would be just a little idea for fruit at lunch?

They're very handy tools to use, I have FitDay on my pc. I don't use mine, but have all my foods listed on a document and just manually add them each day. I might enter them all into it this year, but as I have it all done probably won't bother Cheesy

I would get one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/George-Foreman-18471-4-Portion-Family/dp/B0055429GO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357200702&sr=8-1 and then you don't have to worry about cooking, you just fling your chicken/steak/burgers on them and you're away.

You can have things like Burgers when you're on a diet, just make them from extra lean steakmince, a bit of onion and oxo, some sauce and then mix it all together into patties.... Sweet potato chips and you're eating well whilst having burger and chips nomnom!!

I've never been fond of breakfast myself, so often just have an MRP shake and then have lunch later on.

Eggs are great, you can even have Bacon & Eggs if it's lean without too much worry.

Tuna Salad for lunch

Meat and Veg/Sweet Potato for dinner
Stir Fry

It's getting into a new routine that's the hardest part and once you're into one it's easy.

As I said in the PM once you work out your daily Macros it's easiier and I just work on the basis that IIFYM you can eat it!
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 08:34:32 AM »

Thanks Mark.

I may need to reply to PM later, if you do not mind, just a couple more questions as you seem an expert. But you seem to mention this cooking thing again, which I am not very fond of. A sort of salad for me for me is a ham and cheese sandwich! So along with eating healthier, I need to improve cooking skills.

PS - A muscle Mary is someone who really looks massive and bulky, David Hassellhoff, even bigger than him normally!
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 08:39:27 AM »

Thanks Mark.

I may need to reply to PM later, if you do not mind, just a couple more questions as you seem an expert. But you seem to mention this cooking thing again, which I am not very fond of. A sort of salad for me for me is a ham and cheese sandwich! So along with eating healthier, I need to improve cooking skills.

PS - A muscle Mary is someone who really looks massive and bulky, David Hassellhoff, even bigger than him normally!

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 08:39:38 AM »

No worries and fire away!

Buy a George Foreman and you'll wonder how you haven't had one before, you literally throw the meat in, close the lid for a few minutes and your dinner is cooked.

Sweet Potato fries are easy and tasty, the stir fries are another excellent meal which even someone with limited skills like yourself could master easily enough.
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