tough spot in turbo hundo

[gs08bjohnson]

Full Tilt Poker Game #32744767224: Turbo Hundo (254566705), Table 13 - NL Hold'em - 300/600 Ante 75 - 19:21:39 ET - 2013/05/30
Seat 1: setherson22 (21,205)
Seat 2: theo7171 (10,386)
Seat 3: gs08bjohnson (25,610)
Seat 4: O Shark Eater O (6,579)
Seat 5: pocol237 (16,365)
Seat 7: rafampvieira (16,860)
Seat 9: Salamari (14,512)
setherson22 antes 75
theo7171 antes 75
gs08bjohnson antes 75
O Shark Eater O antes 75
pocol237 antes 75
rafampvieira antes 75
Salamari antes 75
O Shark Eater O posts the small blind of 300
pocol237 posts the big blind of 600
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gs08bjohnson [ ]
rafampvieira folds
Salamari folds
setherson22 raises to 1,200
theo7171 folds
gs08bjohnson has 15 seconds left to act
gs08bjohnson calls 1,200
O Shark Eater O folds
DiaperSniper14 sits down
deputAA sits down
pocol237 has 15 seconds left to act
pocol237 calls 600
*** FLOP *** [ ] (Total Pot: 4,425, 3 Players)
pocol237 checks
setherson22 has 15 seconds left to act
setherson22 bets 1,327
gs08bjohnson has 15 seconds left to act
gs08bjohnson raises to 3,700
pocol237 has 15 seconds left to act
pocol237 calls 3,700
setherson22 folds
*** TURN *** [ ] [] (Total Pot: 13,152, 2 Players)
pocol237 checks
gs08bjohnson checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] [] (Total Pot: 13,152, 2 Players)
pocol237 bets 11,390, and is all in
gs08bjohnson has 15 seconds left to act

Readless as my huds not working on FTP and I don't recognise the player.

I was confused about the cold call on the flop, do people really flat draws here? 
Fwiw the jam on the river was pretty fast.

[dreenie]

Callllllll IMO. Think he could have 44. Not sure he would
Flat a 3 bet on flop with a random 7x unless obv 77 in his hand.  Call because I think your ahead more often than not and it makes little sense.

[Boba Fett]

In game I think I station it off but I wouldnt feel great about it.  7x just seems so unlikely when he calls flop so its Jx, maybe some random flush draws and 44/77.  By the river its hard for him to have 77 and the quick jam feels way more bluffy as Id expect some sort of tank with 44/QJ to induce lighter calls but this is just making some general assumptions since we are readless.

[pleno1]

hes not jamming jx, he could jam qxcc but prolly rips it otf.

think i fold here tbh.

[pleno1]

also dnt really like raise flop, check turn, bet river, its just always a value line, bet turn, decide river imo.

[NoCardDSC]

Yer i agree with Pleno, if you are gonna raise the flop i think you have to barrel turn.

As played i think it's a fold, in game i can see me calling more often than not though =/

[mondatoo]

Yer i agree with Pleno, if you are gonna raise the flop i think you have to barrel turn.

As played i think it's a fold, in game i can see me calling more often than not though =/

With SPR I assume we are jamming turn ?

What worse do we hope will call that cold calls flop ?

[pleno1]

msiread hh

[wazz]

Think I 3bet pre most of the time; stacks of the blinds are the only factors that make me want to lean towards flatting to trap but I'm not especially comfortable with any of the results should one of them jam - if setherson rejams we have to fold, if he just flats it feels like he's trapping. I'd rather 3bet and call it off vs any 1 guy.

I don't really like the flop raise. Setherson won't be c-betting this flop especially lightly as there are lots of draws and it hits the range of the hands that flat him pre, as well as the fact that he has two opponents to get through. Obviously having two overs, a bdfd and a 3-straight is helpful but we're throwing away that equity sometimes when he or the bb 3bets the flop, so if we're going to do anything fancy I'd rather flat, as long as we can come up with a plan for turns. It feels like that plan isn't easy so we're choosing to make a one-and-done raise to see if we can win the pot right here but like I said I think his range is too strong to have him fold that often - I doubt he's folding KJ here for example.

As played I don't expect to be beat that often when he cold-calls and then checks this incredibly drawy board. I doubt he's cold-calling a low set in fear of being up against a higher set and I doubt he's trapping either when he expects he can often get all the money in here and now. So yeah, I do think he's actually drawing himself with a hand like K8cc or something of that order and would accordingly jam the turn. He could I suppose also have AJ that was looking for a safe card to get the money in and this is relatively safe.

As played I really don't know what to make of his river jam. I think I call as played as we look like our best hand is AJ, but we also have a lot of air/missed flush draws that were scared to fire the turn in the face of the amount of strength he's shown on the flop. However I can see why you want to fold as well - it's the same reason you checked behind the turn.