NL25 Zoom Hand - 4

[theprawnidentity]

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

luciusakdj10 (BTN): $48.11 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
shutiee (SB): $106.16 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
tomsom87 (BB): $26.41
tony dolbeat (UTG): $31.43 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SlodkaKaska (MP): $38.51 (VPIP: 18.07, PFR: 14.46, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 86)
muahjojojo (CO): $26.92 (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)

shutiee posts SB $0.10, tomsom87 posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) tomsom87 has   

fold, fold, fold, luciusakdj10 raises to $0.75, shutiee raises to $2.25, tomsom87 raises to $5.75, luciusakdj10 calls $5.00, fold

Flop: ($13.75, 2 players)   
tomsom87 bets $6.30, luciusakdj10 raises to $42.36 and is all-in, tomsom87?

I seem to get myself into these kinds of spots with AK/AQ type hands a lot, any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated?

[pleno1]

Was your plan pre flop to 4bfold?

As played yeah std.

[theprawnidentity]

Would have probably got it in pre vs one and folded of they both went with it.

[pleno1]

If button 5bets it's probs a fold if so does then #hopeforqueens

[rfgqqabc]

If button 5bets it's probs a fold if so does then #hopeforqueens

Hes not finding a herofold with jacks/tens from the button. Got to get in the amount of dead money is obscene.

[pleno1]

he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.

[Bully87]

It's obvs a fold now.

Is it too weak to not bet this flop?

I find myself in very similar spots and I've started to check these kind of horrid boards and obviously find myself c/f which feels just too weak.

[jgcblack]

he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.

They really dont.

I have a lot of AK and JJ vs AA/ KK to prove it...

[Rod]

he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.

Once somebody 4-bets in this kind of spot what kind of range should we be putting them on? It's fair to assume that most people at this level don't 4-bet fold right? I believe it to be JJ+ and AK really the only hands that players do this with unless you have evidence to contradict this.

Is this right?

[pleno1]

he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.

Once somebody 4-bets in this kind of spot what kind of range should we be putting them on? It's fair to assume that most people at this level don't 4-bet fold right? I believe it to be JJ+ and AK really the only hands that players do this with unless you have evidence to contradict this.

Is this right?

That would be a fairly accurate read often we won't even see jacks. I'm not sure what they do with them it just feels like they don't shove.

A guy I coach at n,50 was I the big blind, the button raised, sb 3bet and he instantly folded ak

[jgcblack]

he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.

Once somebody 4-bets in this kind of spot what kind of range should we be putting them on? It's fair to assume that most people at this level don't 4-bet fold right? I believe it to be JJ+ and AK really the only hands that players do this with unless you have evidence to contradict this.

Is this right?

That would be a fairly accurate read often we won't even see jacks. I'm not sure what they do with them it just feels like they don't shove.

A guy I coach at n,50 was I the big blind, the button raised, sb 3bet and he instantly folded ak

[  ] sounds good.....

[pleno1]

it probably wasnt even terrible i guess lol