i think this is what young guys call a merge

[pleno1]

villain is 21-10 passive fish, think on river he calls aq sometimes and folds ak sometimes.

PokerStars Zoom Hand #105598950682:  Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2013/10/16 22:01:26 CET [2013/10/16 16:01:26 ET]
Table 'Aenna' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: xrimasou ($340.95 in chips)
Seat 2: mrunderhill6 ($204.86 in chips)
Seat 3: 77777max ($197 in chips)
Seat 4: learnfriend ($90 in chips)
Seat 5: SebaSacchi ($164.62 in chips)
Seat 6: pads1161 ($270.98 in chips)
mrunderhill6: posts small blind $1
77777max: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
learnfriend: folds
SebaSacchi: raises $6 to $8
pads1161: calls $8
xrimasou: folds
mrunderhill6: calls $7
77777max: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah ]
mrunderhill6: checks
SebaSacchi: bets $14
pads1161: calls $14
mrunderhill6: folds
*** TURN *** [Ah ] []
SebaSacchi: checks
pads1161: bets $32
SebaSacchi: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [Ah ] []
SebaSacchi: checks
pads1161: bets $113
SebaSacchi: folds
Uncalled bet ($113) returned to pads1161
pads1161 collected $115.20 from pot
pads1161: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $118 | Rake $2.80
Board [Ah ]
Seat 1: xrimasou (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mrunderhill6 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: 77777max (big blind) folded before Flop

[theprawnidentity]

Everyone loves a merge.

[pleno1]

It was a question though. Do we think its ok?

[theprawnidentity]

Not really sure we get looked up by worse TBH.  Unless we have notes that the villain is opening EP wider than normal and cant fold some Ax's then I probably just check behind.  Not sure that we get AK to fold / AQ to call enough.

Unless he's the kind of thinking player who expects to do this with nuts or air then its probably just a waste of a great idea.

[pleno1]

Check?!?!

[WotRTheChances]

Check?!?!

Dont really understand why you're saying this? I mean in the OP you say he could fold AK sometimes... so clearly it's thin if you want to get called by worse, thus checking can't be a ridiculous suggestion.

[stato_1]

well yreah but pleno has potted the river think that's the bit that makes it a merge

[pleno1]

Check?!?!

Dont really understand why you're saying this? I mean in the OP you say he could fold AK sometimes... so clearly it's thin if you want to get called by worse, thus checking can't be a ridiculous suggestion.

yeah but betting 1-3rd pot has to be better than checking. i guess this was the point of the thread, is merging best in this spot or not.

[polerization]

Check?!?!

Dont really understand why you're saying this? I mean in the OP you say he could fold AK sometimes... so clearly it's thin if you want to get called by worse, thus checking can't be a ridiculous suggestion.

yeah but betting 1-3rd pot has to be better than checking. i guess this was the point of the thread, is merging best in this spot or not.

Maybe if you don't really ever think your getting looked up by worse it is just better to bet 30%-40% and try and get called by his Ax or hero called by worse?

[pleno1]

That's what I was trying to ask in the thread. ATM I was like lol lets be cool and merge but then after I had some doubts.

[WotRTheChances]

That's what I was trying to ask in the thread. ATM I was like lol lets be cool and merge but then after I had some doubts.

Seems like getting him to fold AK sometimes and calling with AQ a small amount of the time is outweighed by the times he has AT/AJ/Q9s/KQ/TJ etc and you lose way more than by betting 1/3 or 40% pot or whatever.

[pleno1]

He 4xd pre flop so he's weighted a lot more to ak/aq than the other hands you mentioned.

Assume he will keep betting hands that beat us with the unlikely chance of q9s that he will play different pre.