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« on: December 08, 2013, 05:11:43 PM »

180 Man $2.50 Turbo Pokerstars Tournament

Button has only been on the table 15 Hands and has folded them all. Small Blind is 23/20/20 but only over 15 hands again. So not much info to go on.

What is my shoving range? I guess I can basically never call or it is worth considering the stop go. I have been playing pretty tight but have shoved once.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 2.5 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

UTG (t1,910)
UTG+1 (t450)
MP1 (t2,295)
MP2 (t1,250)
MP3 (t6,154)
CO (t2,146)
Button (t2,445)
SB (t1,105)
Hero (BB) (t1,345)

Hero's M: 5.98

Preflop: Hero is BB with XX
6 folds, Button raises to t300, 1 fold, Hero: Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2013, 06:17:39 PM »

How many players remain? What are the payouts?
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2013, 06:23:41 PM »

How many players remain? What are the payouts?

Sorry but that info is beyond irrelevant

Suited aces, broadways, pairs, most unsuited aces, a couple suited connectors. Something like that
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 01:48:21 PM »

Is there any sense at all in calling and shoving any flop? I am guessing not but the play did run through my head at teh time
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 02:03:18 PM »

Is there any sense at all in calling and shoving any flop? I am guessing not but the play did run through my head at teh time

Well, if the opponent is bad he might not realise that he has to call with whatever he has opened with because you only have 8bb's. With that conclusion I am jamming as he might fold. What you are referring to is called a stop and go and it's pretty old school.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2013, 02:13:18 PM »

Is there any sense at all in calling and shoving any flop? I am guessing not but the play did run through my head at teh time

Well, if the opponent is bad he might not realise that he has to call with whatever he has opened with because you only have 8bb's. With that conclusion I am jamming as he might fold. What you are referring to is called a stop and go and it's pretty old school.
Yeah I know, it's what I actually did in the hand and it worked but looking back it feels pretty bad.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2013, 03:33:04 PM »

Personally I don't usually stop and go when a shove is for much more than a PSB, but it is still a viable move on occasion
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2013, 02:06:32 AM »

You should jam pretty much what you're calling a shove with as you likely have zero FE. So definitely not broadways and any pair/ace. I'd prob be 44/KJ/A7 or so. Also helps to know from what he's folded actually got to him unopened etc.
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2013, 08:03:24 PM »

How many players remain? What are the payouts?

Sorry but that info is beyond irrelevant

Suited aces, broadways, pairs, most unsuited aces, a couple suited connectors. Something like that

Please could you explain further why this is irrelevant?
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2013, 08:11:15 PM »

How many players remain? What are the payouts?

Sorry but that info is beyond irrelevant

Suited aces, broadways, pairs, most unsuited aces, a couple suited connectors. Something like that

Please could you explain further why this is irrelevant?

This is the early stages of a 180 so whether there is still 150 people left or 100 people left it has no relevance at all to our decision making.

27 get paid in these btw, with 19th-27 basically getting there buy in back.
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2013, 01:57:50 AM »

How many players remain? What are the payouts?

Sorry but that info is beyond irrelevant

Suited aces, broadways, pairs, most unsuited aces, a couple suited connectors. Something like that

Please could you explain further why this is irrelevant?

This is the early stages of a 180 so whether there is still 150 people left or 100 people left it has no relevance at all to our decision making.

27 get paid in these btw, with 19th-27 basically getting there buy in back.

Oh I assumed with the blinds being 75/150 we are at least mid stages so should factor icm...
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