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« on: January 10, 2014, 10:41:54 PM »

its a home game with few of my friends weve played 1000's of hands together so know each other pretty well 5p/10p blinds:
Hero: £18 (very aggro image)
villain:covers (very passive-calling station)
hero opens button to 0.30p with  villain flats in the SB and BB also calls (irrelevant but gives an idea of pot size)}
  villain donks for 0.50p this is very uncommon from him and made me think J10 type hand so i raised to put pressure on a draw raised to £1.50 he then makes is £4 i peel thinking he may have a set of 5's but to see if he slows down and hes getting OOL
turn is  so pretty much never got 5's now he bets £5 i call
river is a  which he ships
Basically im saying that this is a guy who shouldn't have flatted pre with QQ-AA he never does EVER before in every hand ive played him, so that mean that all i lose to is 5x and KQ i was adamant in the hand that he never donks KQ here as well he would check  raise 100% of the time, so im now only losing to 5x which why the hell would he 3-bet the flop with a 5. So i sat and argued with someone at the table about how he just had no value range but he said but hes always got it there, my question is what the hell has he got then? 
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 12:10:14 AM »

Personally I introduce spirits to the home game and make sure nobody is in a state to analyse hands

nah this was a purely personal interest type question we gave it up after 2 seconds playing 1 card face up and lodden thinks 1 card face up is quality for leveling
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 07:46:49 AM »

why can't he have KQ?
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 12:08:29 PM »

why can't he have KQ?

just going on playing with him before he never donks KQ here ever
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 12:20:57 PM »

It doesn't ever sound like he gets out of line so your probably best off folding to the flop bet. You seem very certain about not being beat but make out like the villain is loose/passive. Seems a lot like K5s/55 to answer your question. And just because you haven't seen it before doesn't mean he hasn't done it. When you stop working in absolutes your game will improve. Hyperbole helps your writing but not your poker thought process. You also seem to approach hands the wrong way, instead of posting "Can I get away from this?"; post "What is your line here?". One gives us the overall impression of the hand, is asking for validation rather than asking about actual improvements you could make to your thought process.

Like your reply to Greekstein, ok he has never donked here before in this sort of spot, but what if villain saw High Stakes Poker last night and saw Philip Ivey or Tom Dwan do something similar. What if he was taking a drink and forgot about the positions for a second.

Instead of working out exactly what he has, work out how your hand does vs his range. And my answer would be really really badly. Certain players just nearly always have it. This dude seems like one. Got a feeling he had AThh or T9hh after this post tho.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 12:42:01 PM »

It doesn't ever sound like he gets out of line so your probably best off folding to the flop bet. You seem very certain about not being beat but make out like the villain is loose/passive. Seems a lot like K5s/55 to answer your question. And just because you haven't seen it before doesn't mean he hasn't done it. When you stop working in absolutes your game will improve. Hyperbole helps your writing but not your poker thought process. You also seem to approach hands the wrong way, instead of posting "Can I get away from this?"; post "What is your line here?". One gives us the overall impression of the hand, is asking for validation rather than asking about actual improvements you could make to your thought process.

Like your reply to Greekstein, ok he has never donked here before in this sort of spot, but what if villain saw High Stakes Poker last night and saw Philip Ivey or Tom Dwan do something similar. What if he was taking a drink and forgot about the positions for a second.

Instead of working out exactly what he has, work out how your hand does vs his range. And my answer would be really really badly. Certain players just nearly always have it. This dude seems like one. Got a feeling he had AThh or T9hh after this post tho.



Okay it wasn't even really a can i get away from this though it was more a talk about my thought process. I didn't factor in external factors like he's mixing it up forgot his turn or something, so thats a really good point. My main point was that yeah it seemed like he had me beat but i effectively ruled out 55 on the turn, and couldn't really process after playing with him so much that he'd mix it up so bad. On the river he was like you got it siggh then rolled over the old  , which shows he was mixing it up because he's not the type of person to flat AA pre.
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