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AndrewT
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Re: Interesting Article
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To do that though would be a long-term play - when they went public that necessitated hitting quarterly revenue targets and short-term thinking.
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Quote from: AndrewT on October 06, 2014, 10:22:44 PM
To do that though would be a long-term play - when they went public that necessitated hitting quarterly revenue targets and short-term thinking.
No it didn't. If director's put their own short term interests ahead of the long term that really isn't in the interest of their shareholders at all. If I had my way, I'd be happy if all my potential investments had short term crises at some point. Nothing better for boosting returns in the long run.
To be fair to them, if they were only thinking short term they could just have sat on the exchange and casino, spent nothing and just booked the profits. By contrast, spending a chunk building a sportsbook can't be the result of short term thinking, surely? I am not saying they are making good long term decisions, just that building a sportsbook appears to be a long term decision on the surface. I strongly suspect all their bad poker decisions over the years were the result of long term thinking too!
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Re: Interesting Article
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Quote from: Doobs on October 06, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on October 06, 2014, 10:22:44 PM
To do that though would be a long-term play - when they went public that necessitated hitting quarterly revenue targets and short-term thinking.
No it didn't. If director's put their own short term interests ahead of the long term that really isn't in the interest of their shareholders at all. If I had my way, I'd be happy if all my potential investments had short term crises at some point. Nothing better for boosting returns in the long run.
To be fair to them, if they were only thinking short term they could just have sat on the exchange and casino, spent nothing and just booked the profits. By contrast, spending a chunk building a sportsbook can't be the result of short term thinking, surely? I am not saying they are making good long term decisions, just that building a sportsbook appears to be a long term decision on the surface. I strongly suspect all their bad poker decisions over the years were the result of long term thinking too!
This is the main reason for 365s success in that their directors day to day are also their majority shareholders so every decision is always made in the best long term interests of the firm every time. There are never any political short term bad for the business long term decisions to meet short term directors bonuses/ share option targets etc. this in my experience of working for numerous gaming firms really sets these type of firms backwards massively long term and allows owner managed firms like 365 to crush them long term.
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Tonibell
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Re: Interesting Article
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October 22, 2014, 06:26:19 PM »
There was a discussion recently on Fred about the poor quality of football statistics and the likelihood of the usual suspects (Brighton's & Brentford's owners &c) having access to better. This is good on the increasingly proprietary nature of baseball stats.
https://sports.vice.com/article/how-wall-street-strangled-the-life-out-of-sabermetrics
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The Camel
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October 22, 2014, 07:44:24 PM »
Quote from: tikay on September 20, 2014, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: simonnatur on September 20, 2014, 11:12:13 AM
Thanks for posting. I know your baby "Tips For Tikay" is in fairly rude health, but it wouldn't hurt for you to pop in and give us a tip from time to time. Pretty please...
(It doesn't even need to be a classic like the 49 ers / Kaepernick write up)
Amen to that.
It may save Keith an awkward reply, but I've tried to keep in touch with Keith under the radar. There is much about Fred these days that he does not really approve of, "Offers" & suchlike.
I'd LOVE him to return to Fred, it's his thread dammit, but I don't want to presssurise him. Little Bo Peep & all that.
Just saw this.
Tikay is right, the thread has moved in a direction I didn't envuisage and don't really like but instead of staying and being resentful best for me to step aside and leave everyone who still enjoys it to carry on without me sniping or making snide comments.
To be honest I rarely read it these days because I'm actively trying to avoid things which annoy me.
Failing miserably in the Ched Evans thread it seems!
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"I dont think you're a wanker Keith" David Nicholson 4th March 2013
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Re: Interesting Article
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October 22, 2014, 08:04:53 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on October 22, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: tikay on September 20, 2014, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: simonnatur on September 20, 2014, 11:12:13 AM
Thanks for posting. I know your baby "Tips For Tikay" is in fairly rude health, but it wouldn't hurt for you to pop in and give us a tip from time to time. Pretty please...
(It doesn't even need to be a classic like the 49 ers / Kaepernick write up)
Amen to that.
It may save Keith an awkward reply, but I've tried to keep in touch with Keith under the radar. There is much about Fred these days that he does not really approve of, "Offers" & suchlike.
I'd LOVE him to return to Fred, it's his thread dammit, but I don't want to presssurise him. Little Bo Peep & all that.
Just saw this.
Tikay is right, the thread has moved in a direction I didn't envuisage and don't really like but instead of staying and being resentful best for me to step aside and leave everyone who still enjoys it to carry on without me sniping or making snide comments.
To be honest I rarely read it these days because I'm actively trying to avoid things which annoy me.
Failing miserably in the Ched Evans thread it seems!
What don't you like about the TfT thread Camel? I'm sure there are a few folk that have gripes about it and it makes for less of a resource than it once was. The contributions from right good minds have dwindles massively from the beginning imo, unless of course your willing to shell out and read most of that stuff elsewhere. But even the guys who for all I know aren't involved with paid up services seem to post less in terms of both selections and general chit chat.
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The Camel
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Re: Interesting Article
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October 22, 2014, 08:14:38 PM »
Quote from: Kmac84 on October 22, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: The Camel on October 22, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: tikay on September 20, 2014, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: simonnatur on September 20, 2014, 11:12:13 AM
Thanks for posting. I know your baby "Tips For Tikay" is in fairly rude health, but it wouldn't hurt for you to pop in and give us a tip from time to time. Pretty please...
(It doesn't even need to be a classic like the 49 ers / Kaepernick write up)
Amen to that.
It may save Keith an awkward reply, but I've tried to keep in touch with Keith under the radar. There is much about Fred these days that he does not really approve of, "Offers" & suchlike.
I'd LOVE him to return to Fred, it's his thread dammit, but I don't want to presssurise him. Little Bo Peep & all that.
Just saw this.
Tikay is right, the thread has moved in a direction I didn't envuisage and don't really like but instead of staying and being resentful best for me to step aside and leave everyone who still enjoys it to carry on without me sniping or making snide comments.
To be honest I rarely read it these days because I'm actively trying to avoid things which annoy me.
Failing miserably in the Ched Evans thread it seems!
What don't you like about the TfT thread Camel? I'm sure there are a few folk that have gripes about it and it makes for less of a resource than it once was. The contributions from right good minds have dwindles massively from the beginning imo, unless of course your willing to shell out and read most of that stuff elsewhere. But even the guys who for all I know aren't involved with paid up services seem to post less in terms of both selections and general chit chat.
Don't really want to go into details KMac, suffice enough to say it used to be my favourite thread on blondepoker and it no longer is.
Delighted that it has been so successful and hope people continue to enjoy it for many years to come.
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Congratulations to the 2012 League Champion - Stapleton Atheists
"Keith The Camel, a true champion!" - Brent Horner 30th December 2012
"I dont think you're a wanker Keith" David Nicholson 4th March 2013
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Re: Interesting Article
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Reply #37 on:
October 22, 2014, 08:38:37 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on October 22, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on October 22, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: The Camel on October 22, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: tikay on September 20, 2014, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: simonnatur on September 20, 2014, 11:12:13 AM
Thanks for posting. I know your baby "Tips For Tikay" is in fairly rude health, but it wouldn't hurt for you to pop in and give us a tip from time to time. Pretty please...
(It doesn't even need to be a classic like the 49 ers / Kaepernick write up)
Amen to that.
It may save Keith an awkward reply, but I've tried to keep in touch with Keith under the radar. There is much about Fred these days that he does not really approve of, "Offers" & suchlike.
I'd LOVE him to return to Fred, it's his thread dammit, but I don't want to presssurise him. Little Bo Peep & all that.
Just saw this.
Tikay is right, the thread has moved in a direction I didn't envuisage and don't really like but instead of staying and being resentful best for me to step aside and leave everyone who still enjoys it to carry on without me sniping or making snide comments.
To be honest I rarely read it these days because I'm actively trying to avoid things which annoy me.
Failing miserably in the Ched Evans thread it seems!
What don't you like about the TfT thread Camel? I'm sure there are a few folk that have gripes about it and it makes for less of a resource than it once was. The contributions from right good minds have dwindles massively from the beginning imo, unless of course your willing to shell out and read most of that stuff elsewhere. But even the guys who for all I know aren't involved with paid up services seem to post less in terms of both selections and general chit chat.
Don't really want to go into details KMac, suffice enough to say it used to be my favourite thread on blondepoker and it no longer is.
Delighted that it has been so successful and hope people continue to enjoy it for many years to come.
Real shame to hear this, I don't know u personally Camel but I obviously know of you. It's a shame that you no longer want to contribute to a thread that you started and that has been a major part of blonde for a few years, of course it's people that make a thread and forum, the more that people do not post or help keep the wheels turning the greater chance of it dying. Of course everything has a life span and who knows what TFT's is. There are certainly people that have a greater knowledge than myself for all things betting related so I admit that my contribution could be more, however I just think it's a real shame that something has put you off and your not the only one. I know you probably don't want or need the drama of a fall out for going into details, hopefully a few of you guys will come back every now and again to spread your knowledge.
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