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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2014, 07:56:40 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2014, 08:03:22 PM »

Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?


The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one.

But does it make it right?


There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different.

If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it.

Sure there are enough details.  He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever.  Still an armed robber and still terrifies people.  The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. 


The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?

Very broad imo.

The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot?  Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. 

I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case.






I just substituted banker for Gypsy.  You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points.  I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious.  

Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to.  Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves].  That is effectively what you said.  Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un.  

The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2014, 08:11:12 PM »

Didn't expect this thread to take this turn - just thought it was a very interesting story!


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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2014, 08:29:19 PM »

Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?


The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one.

But does it make it right?


There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different.

If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it.

Sure there are enough details.  He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever.  Still an armed robber and still terrifies people.  The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. 


The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?

Very broad imo.

The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot?  Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. 

I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case.






I just substituted banker for Gypsy.  You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points.  I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious.  

Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to.  Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves].  That is effectively what you said.  Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un.  

The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains.

I agree that I compared bankers to thieves, which was probably out of order. I didn't intend to give offense, merely to introduce the 'Depends on the circumstances' debate'.

I did not however compare bankers, or anyone else to Kim Jong Un.

For clarity, I don't condone the antics of the so-called Greek Robin Hood.
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2014, 09:00:00 PM »

Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?


The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one.

But does it make it right?


There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different.

If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it.

Sure there are enough details.  He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever.  Still an armed robber and still terrifies people.  The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. 


The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?

Very broad imo.

The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot?  Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. 

I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case.






I just substituted banker for Gypsy.  You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points.  I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious.  

Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to.  Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves].  That is effectively what you said.  Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un.  

The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains.

I agree that I compared bankers to thieves, which was probably out of order. I didn't intend to give offense, merely to introduce the 'Depends on the circumstances' debate'.

I did not however compare bankers, or anyone else to Kim Jong Un.

For clarity, I don't condone the antics of the so-called Greek Robin Hood.

Sorry if I caused offense, I shouldn't get so grouchy, I have never even been a banker.  But the ones I have met mostly seem like decent people.  Even the worst offenders were mostly incompetent rather than the pictures that are painted of them.

Anyway, happy new year.  Hope next year is a good one for all Yorkshiremen. 
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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2014, 09:13:10 PM »

Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?


The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one.

But does it make it right?


There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different.

If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it.

Sure there are enough details.  He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever.  Still an armed robber and still terrifies people.  The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. 


The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?

Very broad imo.

The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot?  Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. 

I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case.






I just substituted banker for Gypsy.  You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points.  I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious.  

Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to.  Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves].  That is effectively what you said.  Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un.  

The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains.

I agree that I compared bankers to thieves, which was probably out of order. I didn't intend to give offense, merely to introduce the 'Depends on the circumstances' debate'.

I did not however compare bankers, or anyone else to Kim Jong Un.

For clarity, I don't condone the antics of the so-called Greek Robin Hood.

Sorry if I caused offense, I shouldn't get so grouchy, I have never even been a banker.  But the ones I have met mostly seem like decent people.  Even the worst offenders were mostly incompetent rather than the pictures that are painted of them.

Anyway, happy new year.  Hope next year is a good one for all Yorkshiremen. 


I'm sorry too. I can be a bit blunt a times.

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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2015, 12:03:01 AM »

Didn't expect this thread to take this turn - just thought it was a very interesting story!




Dewi starts all the great threads.
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