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[stato_1]

28 left in FTP major, both reggy stats, sb been playing a lot of hands with CL, CO not so much. Theres more to this hand but lets do this bit for now

Full Tilt Poker Game #35195919359: The Sunday Major (285987829), Table 1 - NL Hold'em - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - 01:19:20 WET - 2015/01/26 [20:19:20 ET - 2015/01/25]
Seat 3: Platinum Balls (138,864)
Seat 4: Big Huni (109,292)
Seat 5: Brainy14 (75,195)
Seat 6: stato_1 (161,003)
Seat 7: donkno2 (312,905)
Seat 8: Sentimento_do_2 (198,567)
Seat 9: PrettyFlacko (159,652)
Platinum Balls antes 750
Big Huni antes 750
Brainy14 antes 750
stato_1 antes 750
donkno2 antes 750
Sentimento_do_2 antes 750
PrettyFlacko antes 750
donkno2 posts the small blind of 3,000
Sentimento_do_2 posts the big blind of 6,000
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stato_1 [As ]
PrettyFlacko folds
Platinum Balls has 15 seconds left to act
Platinum Balls folds
Big Huni folds
Brainy14 raises to 12,000
stato_1 ??

[PathFinder]

Can see why you would flat but villain min raising from a 12bb stack feels strong. So I would 3bet small so we can reopen action If blinds flat and villain shoves. Probs 27k

[Oxford_HRV]

do a click!

[rfgqqabc]

25672 please, kinda want to flat tho.

[pleno1]

i think jam

[cambridgealex]

What about a big 3bet so the blinds gii lighter vs us? Think the OR is going with the same or similar range regardless of our sizing. So big sizing for us might look weaker to blinds, like 77 or AT or something?

Just a thought.

[cambridgealex]

i think jam

yeh or that, for similar reasons?

[pleno1]

yeh, similar, like if we have tt and 3bet any size they can be like wow sigh, if we jam they never fold. if hes r/f he's r/f if hes planning to r/c people he could fold vs some of our sizes, but not vs a jam.

[pleno1]

mtt players think a lot like

"man i cant be dominated here, he'd never jam jj+' and end up making hilarious rejams to

[pleno1]

also think havign a 3bet folding range here is pretty bad, i dont mind just aving a jamming range that is pretty tight, and by having aa in it we dont have to worry too much.

[Oxford_HRV]

yeh, similar, like if we have tt and 3bet any size they can be like wow sigh, if we jam they never fold. if hes r/f he's r/f if hes planning to r/c people he could fold vs some of our sizes, but not vs a jam.

I agree with what you say here, definitely think all in ftw now.

In regards to positions this is CO v BTN. So we can be perceived to have re steals/be wider in our range against a 12bb stack? would you think this play would have the same effect if say it was an early postion open and we were next to act? i think there is more of a reason to flat, but are we just over complicating things here?

[PathFinder]

I'm sure pleno will answer your question but I think we will look uber strong flatting an EP raise with this stack size and if anything encourage more flats behind.

I really like Pleno's thinking here of just jamming. His reasoning just makes so much sense. Another question would be what if the stack size if the villain was 20bb? You still just jamming?

[pleno1]

No. We can be perceived to have a 3bf range co vs btn with 20bbs