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« on: December 12, 2015, 12:01:42 PM »

OK, I'm new to Blonde (obv) so please be gentle with me. I'm a rec player, but take it seriously and have been playing for 10+ years now. I can only play about one (max 2) games per week due to work/family commitments, and I rarely sit at the cash tables. I know I'm waaaayyyy behind the skill level of a lot of the ppl who post on here, so please don't shred me. Like I said, please be gentle.

Type of Game:
£75 + £10 NLH MTT @ Genting Luton   

Number of Runners: Second Flight of 3 x Day 1's
Number of Runners remaining: 18 of 48 (+ 33 RE's!)
Payout information if relevant: £15,000 GTE + 10 x £165 seats. £12k in the pot after 2nd flight.

Blind levels/Clock length: Clock is 40m throughout, and we are in the final level of the day (Level 10), so the blinds are 800/1600/200a.
- going to be 1k/2k/200a in L11

Your stack size: c.210k

Stack Sizes of relevant opposition: chunks - prob 460k

In the hand concerned your position at the table and that of relevant opposition: I'm OTB, villain is BB

What is your image? I've got a pretty tight image, but shown a bluff for balance. He may not have been at the table to see it.

What is the image of the opponents concerned? Is there any history? Any reads? He's a young aggro player, not shy to play any two IP or OOP with his stack. Tendency to be verbally aggressive even after winning a big pot, keen to demonstrate that "he knew all along" or that he knows your hand even when no showdown.

What is the situation? Describe as fully as you can? Playing 8-handed in the last level, the play has been fairly cautious by most players. I've only been involved in 2 hands up to this point with the villain. First, I defended my BB with KTdd to his min raise from utg+2, then c/f the flop. Second, I raise in ep with AJcc, he plus 1 other call behind; I c-bet a AT6r flop, both call: Turn is bringing NFD, I bet half pot & both fold. He says "You got too greedy with your AK".

OK, so hand in question:
Vietnamese last limps from shortstack (30k-ish) MP, I have  OTB & raise to 5500. SB folds, villain takes a 25k chip and fiddles with a few of the others before flicking in a bet of 32k. The lady folds. After pausing to reflect on the size of this bet, I say "Why so big? Don't want to see a flop with a small pair?". He says that the sizing was an error, but I don't believe it was. I decide to peel. Flop  & I'm insta-regretting opening my big gob; I don't often do speech play, and now there's a note to self. He leads for 55k into a 67k pot. Since I've already been chatty, I say "That's a rather large bet for a set" but he's gone statue-like. I cut out the 55k from my stack, and decide to call one more to evaluate after the Turn, which is  . He leads for 75k, and I have 130k behind (ish).

What questions do you want answered? Should I be getting the rest of my stack in here, or should I fold & go through to Day 2 with a 65BB stack and find a better spot? I know I got myself into a tricky spot with my chat about small pair. However, after the turn there's just so many hands that are beating me, including JJ & QQ that he may have played this way - although I'd kind of ruled out QQ+ due to the size of his 3b pf.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2015, 12:04:20 PM »

Sorry - limper should read "Vietnamese Lady"
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2015, 12:43:43 PM »

Hey 4k, welcome to blonde.

It's a massive 3 bet pet pre  5.5k to 32k. I would fold 10s preflop to this action, unless we had a read he could do it with a small pair. Mostly though it is just going to be a massive hand, aa or kk.

On the flop his cont bet is massive, just under pot. It continues to look like strength.

I'd fold the flop.

Ott bringing in 4 to a straight he continues to bet which is quite surprising. Again I would fold.

Whatever his range is, sets/ over pairs, straight, our 10s are not doing well at all.
 
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 01:05:23 PM »

Just fold pre, fold now
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2015, 04:26:45 PM »

Ive seen the chip leader from the second day and know who he is, knowing the player and how he plays (super aggressive both with cards and verbally) I'm never folding to this size bet, I'm shoving it right in his eye pre. Just cannot see how he goes this large with AA-JJ that often considering you have been playing quite tight and is much more likely to want to show you 72o when you fold. I'm then super happy if he calls off with AK AQ and misses, starts banging the table and calling you a donkey for thinking he was bluffing with that bet sizing, the barrage of tutting and swearing will continue for a few minutes and will go on longer if you chuckle gingerly while stacking the chips.

While if he hits you will still get a barrage of abuse but will happily buy in today for another bite of the cherry.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2015, 05:19:39 PM »

Ive seen the chip leader from the second day and know who he is, knowing the player and how he plays (super aggressive both with cards and verbally) I'm never folding to this size bet, I'm shoving it right in his eye pre. Just cannot see how he goes this large with AA-JJ that often considering you have been playing quite tight and is much more likely to want to show you 72o when you fold. I'm then super happy if he calls off with AK AQ and misses, starts banging the table and calling you a donkey for thinking he was bluffing with that bet sizing, the barrage of tutting and swearing will continue for a few minutes and will go on longer if you chuckle gingerly while stacking the chips.

While if he hits you will still get a barrage of abuse but will happily buy in today for another bite of the cherry.

How did you know it was Chompy?
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2015, 05:35:44 PM »

Ive seen the chip leader from the second day and know who he is, knowing the player and how he plays (super aggressive both with cards and verbally) I'm never folding to this size bet, I'm shoving it right in his eye pre. Just cannot see how he goes this large with AA-JJ that often considering you have been playing quite tight and is much more likely to want to show you 72o when you fold. I'm then super happy if he calls off with AK AQ and misses, starts banging the table and calling you a donkey for thinking he was bluffing with that bet sizing, the barrage of tutting and swearing will continue for a few minutes and will go on longer if you chuckle gingerly while stacking the chips.

While if he hits you will still get a barrage of abuse but will happily buy in today for another bite of the cherry.

How did you know it was Chompy?

Haha, too quick.

Of course folding pre is also a good option.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2015, 06:29:56 PM »

Lol. Chompy made a brief appearance at my table after his broke to the last two. I'll leave it to him to describe his exit hand.

Hi Omm - yes you clearly know the villain. One of the most unpleasant, confrontational players that I've met in Luton. Not sure how he's managed to escape a ban, since he's equally nasty to the female players. Your read of his play is spot on. I didn't want to put too much about that on my OP, as it could be taken as a spoiler.

In case anyone else wants to comment first, I'll hold off from the outcome. However, it's nice to have validation for my initial refusal to fold. I guess I just needed to stick with my plan, which was to jam the flop on a safe board... even though I'd thought small pair or air.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2015, 07:45:18 PM »

Lol. Chompy made a brief appearance at my table after his broke to the last two. I'll leave it to him to describe his exit hand.

Hi Omm - yes you clearly know the villain. One of the most unpleasant, confrontational players that I've met in Luton. Not sure how he's managed to escape a ban, since he's equally nasty to the female players. Your read of his play is spot on. I didn't want to put too much about that on my OP, as it could be taken as a spoiler.

In case anyone else wants to comment first, I'll hold off from the outcome. However, it's nice to have validation for my initial refusal to fold. I guess I just needed to stick with my plan, which was to jam the flop on a safe board... even though I'd thought small pair or air.

Pretty sure villain wants to stab chompy
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2015, 08:34:23 PM »

Ha, know who it is. I actually like him and got on really well with him.

Can see why he would want to stab Chompy after sharing a table with both of them. He outclassed Chompy several times and Chompy couldn't handle it.

He's not the first to want to stab him. Won't be the last.

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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 12:00:10 AM »

Would go bigger pre over a limper probably between 7-8k

When he makes it so big pre I would just fold and keep an eye on it for future. its not like u have a ton of history where he might be messing with u and even if he is gonna be aggro it's coming up to end of day anyway so u don't have to put up with it much longer
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2015, 07:55:49 PM »

Postscript:

I folded the TT reluctantly. He snap shows AKo & gives a speech about how he was kakking it after I called the flop, and then said he was gonna bomb the river, blah blah blah. He finished the day with a monster chip-lead.

Day 2: I was slightly ambivalent when I saw that I was drawn on the same table as him; but after he lost a few pots, I was glad to be there. Can't remember the hand details, but he folded to my c/r and said "I'm gonna be patient before I take all your chips and send you home". I replied "That's very nice of you, thank you so much. But let's face it, if you don't win this comp after starting Day 2 with such a big chip-lead, it'll be a disaster for you." He was quiet for a while.

I had the pleasure of eliminating him at the FT. OK, it's a shameless brag, but I suspect there's one or two on here who will be pleased.

Till next time, thanks for your feedback.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2015, 08:56:18 PM »

Boom! Saw you two went third and fourth but wasn't sure of the order. Wpwpwp sir.
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