The powers above......or lack of as it seems???

[Jagged Edgge]

My Gosh i never excepted such a debate.

Am i a member of staff?? thankfully no although i never realised so many casino staff used this forum.

My original point was not to vindicate anyone especially but to just see if this goes on constantly around the country.

Who is Yogi and who is Blue Wolf? i remember seeing 3 members of the floor team so i'm guessing that GiGi is one of them also and is anyonegot a manager there?

[GiGi]

Im not one of them, i remain amonymous, only the hard core blondites know my identity.

[snoopy1239]

lack of staff? i also often see managers siting down drinking tea or sitting down at a lap top pretending to be getting on with things, if another cash game was needed maybe one of the managers could of stood in and supplyed another dealer, mind due they are few and far between, a agree there are few managers with a much cardroom expertise as the leading cardroom supervisors, to be prefectly honest with u, if a manager revearses my desision with out consulting me first and shows me no respect in front of the cardroom punters, then i will do one of two things either go above him an complain to gm the way he handled the situation or give him a SLAP personally i prefer the second one but its not recommended

as regarding staff not wanting to deal cash games (well unfortunatly its in there job description to deal casino games thats wot their employed to do) they could always work their arse of in a factory for less money or work on blackpools sea front

From what I understand, cardroom manager's are allowed to deal and leave the room unsupervised.

[GiGi]

wot u understand? no offence but u dont know much about this, try reading the informative guidelines 3 from the gaming board, it states,  24 3 ii, supervision by an experianced and certificated member of staff with cardroom training

[snoopy1239]

From witnessing multiple cardroom managers come and go from Gala, Notts, it is obvious to me that one of the most important factors in running a successful poker room is having the respect from the players and the ability to represent an image of authority. If players think they can run to the casino manager whenever they don't like a decision and have the cardroom manager's decision overuled, then that poor fella instantly loses the credibility his role requires. Instead of his authority within the cardroom being publically undermimed, wouldn't it be better to take him to one side. If it is a vital decision that is being made incorrectly, then the casino manager can  privately demand that the decision be reveresed. At least this way it will appear as if the cardroom manager has merely changed his decision, rather than being simply told what to do. This will in turn allow the cardroom manager to retain the respect of the players as an authoritive figure and result in a more ordered cardroom. If players think they can get what they want by simply cutting out the cardroom manager, then believe me, they often will.

[snoopy1239]

wot u understand? no offence but u dont know much about this, try reading the informative guidelines 3 from the gaming board, it states, 24 3 ii, supervision by an experianced and certificated member of staff with cardroom training

Lol Sry. A typo that completely ballsed up what I was saying.

Should have been 'aren't' - oops. 

[tikay]

Jeez, what a thread THIS become.

Firstly, there are numerous cardroom Managers up and down the country who are blondeites. I can think of 8 at least. They do not post in their own name for genuine legal reasons. I know who each of them are, but will not reveal that information, these guys NEED somewhere to vent their feelings, & talk publicly about issues that concern us all. One of them was forced to change his blonde alias recently, as it became obvious who he was. Others don't care if their real identity is known, but thats their decision, not mine.

What I CAN and WILL say is that Cardroom Managers/Supervisors are on a hiding to nothing. Good decisions are never noticed, but there is a hue and cry when they get it wrong, as they do from time to time. And many decisions they make are based upon Gaming Commission guidelines - many of them quite ridiculous - for which the guys on the front line bear the brunt of criticism.

I have nothing but praise for these guys, their job is thankless. The guys at Blackpool are among the best I have ever met - truly. Blackpool would not be the same without them, they are part of the furniture as far as I am concerned.

So are the Luton, Walsall, Sheffield and Gala Notts crew, all of whom are blondeites, & all of whom, deserve our support.

I am not posting this to take sides, but a little incident has got a bit out of hand in my opinion.

Let's put it to bed, eh, before things go too far.

My job is made an absolute delight by my relationship with Cardroom Managers up and down the country.

Join me in acknowledging this, & let's move on.

[anyonegotthisone]

Tikay, as usual you are talking sense...

One thing that is most gratifying about this whole thread is this: everyone is passionate about poker.

[BlueWolf]

i have to agree with tikay i'm pretty sure everyone knows who i am even tho i'm pretty much no longer a fully fledged cardroom supervisor. we get the grief when things go wrong even if its not been our decision.

i can only thank all blondites for their marvellous support of myself and Yogi and also Clare. THere has been nothing but praise for our efforts here and thats because ourselves like the other supervisors who lurk here have a passion for the game hencewhy we spend our own time on here doing our thing. Snoopy i could agree more i have had decisions reversed by managers who in fairness dont know jack shit baout poker they just dont like being harrasssed, and this has been done in full view of a room full of players and it doesnt help when players know thats this sort of thing will happen they will use it to their advantage, not all mind tha majority are superb.

I have thoroughly enjoyed my time running events due to the unique nature and relationship with players  but without full support of all involved it leaves us in a very bad position that is hard to recover from. This topic has become a bit contriversial in some parts but yes we are all passionate and we do care about OUR game because thats what it is and we all play our part in its popularity surge.

[tikay]

"passionate about poker"....

anyonegotthisone hits the nail on the head.

Now, if this  thread continues, Yogi & Blue-Wolf's problems may get worse. I do NOT want either of them lost to Blackpool, or poker. So they need to get their problems sorted. Let's hope they do, they are a bit special.

[BlueWolf]

aww i never been called special before hehehe well there was this one time but.... lol

All cardrooms have their problems but in time and with a little bit off give n take i'm sure they will iron themselves out. Well heres hoping for yogis sake lol

Once again i thank the original poster for this thread and showing some form of support, well i think it was support lol and the others who have posted seemed to have been pretty supportive too which is all good hehe