Poker Ace Hud or Game Time + ?

[Gryff]

I think your post proves why we need PT rather than a case against it.

Anyone with a basic grasp of programming can easily make a little database and script that parses the hand history from their site and gives them the same stats as PT.
It would be utterly undetectable.
Its even possible to create using excel.

Would you rather everyone has access to the same information or just those who can program?

[matt674]

Someone told me yesterday that they are making a little program, I don't want to say too much about it but I understand you can analyse how your opponents play using PT I guess by spending a lot of time going through their stats and HHs and stuff.

But is that not why all the good poker players mix up their game so that they are unpredictable? Can you imagine a computer program trying to establish what hole cards a player like Jac Arama is playing?

Also anyone who hasn't got the proper "feel" when it comes to trying to establish the cards his opponents are holding and has to rely on a computer program to give them figures of what he is likely to be playing will probably not make much in the long run as they are not poker players.

[HarlemShuffle]

I wish non of this information was made available by the poker sites. I think it takes some of the skill away from the game. But looks like it's here to stay now and if you're serious about poker then you have to start using this software.

[bhoywonder]

which programs work on tribeca??

if any??

thanks in advance

[Sheriff Fatman]

I wish non of this information was made available by the poker sites. I think it takes some of the skill away from the game. But looks like it's here to stay now and if you're serious about poker then you have to start using this software.

Look on the bright side though, most of the recreational players don't know its there or how it can be used to analyse and improve their game.  In fact, you could give all this information to about half the players on the site and it wouldn't change the way they played in the slightest!

The information is only as good as you make it.  It not exactly an effortless process to use it to gain an edge so its not as big a problem as you might think.

Besides, there are sites where none of this stuff works if you really don't like it.  Try one of the Boss sites (if you can stand the software).  They don't have hand histories available (never mind mucked card info!) so none of this works there!

Sheriff

[Sheriff Fatman]

which programs work on tribeca??

if any??

thanks in advance

All of them, Poker Tracker, GT+. and PA HUD work for cash games but not for tournaments.  However, there's no mucked card info in the hand histories that are imported so you don't get to see this information.

Sheriff

[Gryff]

which programs work on tribeca??

if any??

thanks in advance

All of them, Poker Tracker, GT+. and PA HUD work for cash games but not for tournaments.  However, there's no mucked card info in the hand histories that are imported so you don't get to see this information.

Sheriff

Hate to say it but thats not true. Pokertracker works fine for tournaments, as does PA HUD its just GT+ that doesnt.
Also, hand history works the same for tournament as for cash - if you went to showdown you get to see mucked hands in history.

[Sheriff Fatman]

The hand histories work the same in tournaments but there's no facility to import the tournament results into Poker Tracker.  Consequently you can't do anything with the hand histories for tournaments.

Sheriff

[Gryff]

Wrong, Pokertracker has supported tournament hands for ages.
You know where you click for "ring game statistics".

The button next to that is for "Tournament Game Statistics".

Only thing is, except for Pokerstars you have to state the buyin of each tourney if you want record keeping as well as hand stats.

[Sheriff Fatman]

You do realise I'm talking specifically about Tribeca sites (as per the question asked) here, don't you?  Tournaments are not supported.  If you don't believe me, check out PT's website.

Sheriff

http://www.pokertracker.com/ptsupported.html

[Gryff]

You hadn't said a single thing about Tribeca only at any point. Only person who did was Div