Asking for pot count

[stallyon]

OK so i was in a live poker event this evening at DTD and asked the dealer for a count of the pot. He said he couldnt do this so I scanned over the pot myself to get a rough total of how much was already in to which he replied "its no good counting the chips sir. its no limit". what i want to ask is:

am i within my rights to ask the dealer how much is already in the pot, for what ever reason?

[celtic]

OK so i was in a live poker event this evening at DTD and asked the dealer for a count of the pot. He said he couldnt do this so I scanned over the pot myself to get a rough total of how much was already in to which he replied "its no good counting the chips sir. its no limit". what i want to ask is:

am i within my rights to ask the dealer how much is already in the pot, for what ever reason?

the dealer cant tell you. there is a thread on here from last week on the same topic. cant find it tho.

[Ironside]

OK so i was in a live poker event this evening at DTD and asked the dealer for a count of the pot. He said he couldnt do this so I scanned over the pot myself to get a rough total of how much was already in to which he replied "its no good counting the chips sir. its no limit". what i want to ask is:

am i within my rights to ask the dealer how much is already in the pot, for what ever reason?

you cant ask him to count the pot but you can ask him to spread the chips so you can count them

[kinboshi]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=31614.0

[kenjude]

The same question was asked on a .50/1 cash table at DtD last night, same answer.

There was also a fine example of why you should simply turn your cards over right in front of you and keep them out of the dealer's reach until the chips are heading your way if you want to claim the pot. A young lad announced "AK" on an A high board in response to the oppo's AQ and slammed his hand down towards the dealer to claim the pot but nobody actually saw the cards and they were face down as the dealer looked and she gathered them into the muck. He said they sort of landed on edge and flipped back over but nobody saw them

Felt a bit sorry for him as I think he was telling the truth about his hand, but the staff had no choice given what happened and that nobody actually saw them. A lesson learned.

[stallyon]

There was also a fine example of why you should simply turn your cards over right in front of you and keep them out of the dealer's reach until the chips are heading your way if you want to claim the pot. A young lad announced "AK" on an A high board in response to the oppo's AQ and slammed his hand down towards the dealer to claim the pot but nobody actually saw the cards and they were face down as the dealer looked and she gathered them into the muck. He said they sort of landed on edge and flipped back over but nobody saw them

Felt a bit sorry for him as I think he was telling the truth about his hand, but the staff had no choice given what happened and that nobody actually saw them. A lesson learned.

I've seen one guy declare he had trips because he didnt notice that the board had paired giving him a full house and the dealer declared that a flush had won the pot and wouldnt back down

[I KNOW IT]

There was also a fine example of why you should simply turn your cards over right in front of you and keep them out of the dealer's reach until the chips are heading your way if you want to claim the pot. A young lad announced "AK" on an A high board in response to the oppo's AQ and slammed his hand down towards the dealer to claim the pot but nobody actually saw the cards and they were face down as the dealer looked and she gathered them into the muck. He said they sort of landed on edge and flipped back over but nobody saw them

Felt a bit sorry for him as I think he was telling the truth about his hand, but the staff had no choice given what happened and that nobody actually saw them. A lesson learned.

I've seen one guy declare he had trips because he didnt notice that the board had paired giving him a full house and the dealer declared that a flush had won the pot and wouldnt back down

At DTD? Had he tabled his hand?

[kinboshi]

There was also a fine example of why you should simply turn your cards over right in front of you and keep them out of the dealer's reach until the chips are heading your way if you want to claim the pot. A young lad announced "AK" on an A high board in response to the oppo's AQ and slammed his hand down towards the dealer to claim the pot but nobody actually saw the cards and they were face down as the dealer looked and she gathered them into the muck. He said they sort of landed on edge and flipped back over but nobody saw them

Felt a bit sorry for him as I think he was telling the truth about his hand, but the staff had no choice given what happened and that nobody actually saw them. A lesson learned.

I've seen one guy declare he had trips because he didnt notice that the board had paired giving him a full house and the dealer declared that a flush had won the pot and wouldnt back down

At DTD? Had he tabled his hand?

Doubt it would have been at DTD.  The cards speak, no matter what the player declares.

[I KNOW IT]

There was also a fine example of why you should simply turn your cards over right in front of you and keep them out of the dealer's reach until the chips are heading your way if you want to claim the pot. A young lad announced "AK" on an A high board in response to the oppo's AQ and slammed his hand down towards the dealer to claim the pot but nobody actually saw the cards and they were face down as the dealer looked and she gathered them into the muck. He said they sort of landed on edge and flipped back over but nobody saw them

Felt a bit sorry for him as I think he was telling the truth about his hand, but the staff had no choice given what happened and that nobody actually saw them. A lesson learned.

I've seen one guy declare he had trips because he didnt notice that the board had paired giving him a full house and the dealer declared that a flush had won the pot and wouldnt back down

At DTD? Had he tabled his hand?

Doubt it would have been at DTD.  The cards speak, no matter what the player declares.

I do too doubt it, but if its the same dealer who gave the sarky comment about " its no good counting its N/L" he should be looking for another place of employment

[kinboshi]

Of course.  The dealer shouldn't be saying anything of the sort.

[Gazza]

OK so i was in a live poker event this evening at DTD and asked the dealer for a count of the pot. He said he couldnt do this so I scanned over the pot myself to get a rough total of how much was already in to which he replied "its no good counting the chips sir. its no limit". what i want to ask is:

am i within my rights to ask the dealer how much is already in the pot, for what ever reason?

The dealer should only tell you the pot size in a pot limit game. Asking the dealer to spread the pot out is usually OK, although I know of some floorman who don't even let their dealers do that. The reason being that a dealer should keep his/her hands out of the pot to prevent chip palming.

[stallyon]

Doubt it would have been at DTD.  The cards speak, no matter what the player declares.

it wasnt at any big casino or card room. it was a local run event which might perhaps explain the knowledge of the dealer

[TheChipPrince]

Interesting... I suffer from colour-blindness (red-green) and at DTD last friday struggled a little with the 500 & 1000 chips when looking at a pot across the table, all the more reason to concentrate on the hand eh...