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FuglyBaz
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« Reply #120 on: September 13, 2008, 11:47:40 PM »

As for chess not being a sport, I think it is so Vladmir Kramnik, Gary Kasparov, Anatoly Karpov and Bobby Fischer are the greatest chess players up to now

Chess is a great game, but it's not a sport in my book.

If you are talking great chess players, you've missed out arguably the greatest - Capablanca.

Its tough to compare Capablanca, Morphy, Botvinnik, Alekhine etc because of the differences in time and understanding in theory on the game. But from the games I've seen Capablanca is up there. I think Kasparov and Karpov would beat him slightly more than he would them though but thats just an opinion after seeing more games.
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« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2008, 04:14:31 AM »

You have to take him at his time though.

Anyone of top 20 male tennis players today could probably pump Rod Laver on his arse more often than not, just because the game has come on so much. Doesn't take anything away from what Rod Laver achieved though.
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« Reply #122 on: September 14, 2008, 11:32:59 AM »

You have to take him at his time though.

Anyone of top 20 male tennis players today could probably pump Rod Laver on his arse more often than not, just because the game has come on so much. Doesn't take anything away from what Rod Laver achieved though.

How would era affect your standing at Chess? Surely it's a game where era is irrelevant other than the strength of your opposition. A greatest of all time would be easier to define than in other games/sports by purely analysing the moves people made.
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« Reply #123 on: September 14, 2008, 11:39:04 AM »

You have to take him at his time though.

Anyone of top 20 male tennis players today could probably pump Rod Laver on his arse more often than not, just because the game has come on so much. Doesn't take anything away from what Rod Laver achieved though.

How would era affect your standing at Chess? Surely it's a game where era is irrelevant other than the strength of your opposition. A greatest of all time would be easier to define than in other games/sports by purely analysing the moves people made.


Analysis is so much better today, for one thing.  Modern players 'train' better than in previous era's.  They are physically and mentally better equipped for a long challenge.
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« Reply #124 on: September 14, 2008, 12:14:29 PM »

You have to take him at his time though.

Anyone of top 20 male tennis players today could probably pump Rod Laver on his arse more often than not, just because the game has come on so much. Doesn't take anything away from what Rod Laver achieved though.

How would era affect your standing at Chess? Surely it's a game where era is irrelevant other than the strength of your opposition. A greatest of all time would be easier to define than in other games/sports by purely analysing the moves people made.


Analysis is so much better today, for one thing.  Modern players 'train' better than in previous era's.  They are physically and mentally better equipped for a long challenge.

I agree to an extent, but surely at the very highest level a player will seperate themselves from the previous bests by being more creative and adaptive then past players have been. That you can judge regadless of era.

I know it's standing on the shoulders of giants a little but it's still doing things no one else had the foresight to do before.
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« Reply #125 on: September 14, 2008, 08:14:52 PM »

Agree with all said about Capablance and the other chess gods before him.

I suppose if we were to do this with other games we could say look at Joe Davis in Snooker, Eric Bristow in darts, George Best (when compared to Ronaldo of today) etc etc. You can only go on equipment available to them and how they utilise it compared to their peers.
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