Are the odds right on Man U yet ?

[ShatnerPants]

in short..yes 11-4 is a massive price..if MAnU go on a run agaion (and they will) their odds will shorten..they will be 6-4 at some stage this season and that's when you can lay them off and make a tidy profit.

This is what I actually started the thread about, rather than how competitive are Arsenal and Liverpool.

I'm old.

And stupid.

I understand gambling in as much as I used to go down the bookies and bet on a race, or a series of races, either to win, or each way.  That's complicated enough for me.  An each way Yankee ftw, wahoooooo.

But nowadays, what with Befair, and similar sites, you guys don't necessarily need Utd, to come back enough to win the title ( which is what I was thinking about )
but just to improve enough to challenge.

So you can take advantage of the shorter odds by laying ( ? ) them, and making a profit either way.

Is there an idiots guide on how to go about this ?  How much risk would there be ?  When and how would one get the profit ?  What sort of profit could one aim for , if one ( me    ) staked, say £10, £50, £100, £300 respectively.

[turny]

wait til they lose at stamford bridge next weekend and you will get an even better price!

[mondatoo]

Not sure how correct i am here but im 90% sure that out of the big 4 last season (may not have been the case by end of season but certainly in the latter stages) rafa rotated his team the least but the problem was they don't have as good squad players as they other 3.If Liverpool keep the best players fit for most of the season and play them all the time they'll come a lot closer than they have for a long time imo.I was glad the scousers won on sat since it may lead to a more exciting title race hopefully time will tell i guess.

Also 11/4 is a huge price for man u, i'd lump on it if i had money to tie up for 9 months.They've the best 1st team,the best squad by far and since chelsea have already lost one of there best players not a gr8 start for them injury wise.

[sweet potata!]

Not sure how correct i am here but im 90% sure that out of the big 4 last season (may not have been the case by end of season but certainly in the latter stages) rafa rotated his team the least but the problem was they don't have as good squad players as they other 3.If Liverpool keep the best players fit for most of the season and play them all the time they'll come a lot closer than they have for a long time imo.I was glad the scousers won on sat since it may lead to a more exciting title race hopefully time will tell i guess.

Also 11/4 is a huge price for man u, i'd lump on it if i had money to tie up for 9 months.They've the best 1st team,the best squad by far and since chelsea have already lost one of there best players not a gr8 start for them injury wise.

It's fairly debateable if ManU have 'by far' the best 1st 11 or squad  imo, i think Chelsea can more than match them best 11 v best 11 and i would also say they have more depth in their squad

So imo your opinions are slightly off the mark but of course thats just my opinion

[ShatnerPants]

wait til they lose at stamford bridge next weekend and you will get an even better price!

I'll sue if Utd win, though

 

[Karabiner]

I think that it is worth pointing out that creative central midfield players are somewhat thin on the ground at manure.

With the notable exeption of 33 year-old Paul Scholes that is.

One other possible area of concern is the now regularly unconvincing play from Van Der Saar.

11/4 still looks tempting mind you as liverpoo were less than inspiring in their first two games.

[mondatoo]

Not sure how correct i am here but im 90% sure that out of the big 4 last season (may not have been the case by end of season but certainly in the latter stages) rafa rotated his team the least but the problem was they don't have as good squad players as they other 3.If Liverpool keep the best players fit for most of the season and play them all the time they'll come a lot closer than they have for a long time imo.I was glad the scousers won on sat since it may lead to a more exciting title race hopefully time will tell i guess.

Also 11/4 is a huge price for man u, i'd lump on it if i had money to tie up for 9 months.They've the best 1st team,the best squad by far and since chelsea have already lost one of there best players not a gr8 start for them injury wise.

It's fairly debateable if ManU have 'by far' the best 1st 11 or squad  imo, i think Chelsea can more than match them best 11 v best 11 and i would also say they have more depth in their squad

So imo your opinions are slightly off the mark but of course thats just my opinion

It is just my opinion also and I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with it i just think man utd have a stonger team especially in attack:Man u have rooney,roanldo,berbatov,tevez chelsea have drogba,anelka,kalou ? can't think of anyone else for chelsea and as i think all four named for man u are much much better players than anelka and kalou.Chelsea have a better keeper i'd say the defences and midfields were quite equal however man u have better replacements imo.

[boldie]

in short..yes 11-4 is a massive price..if MAnU go on a run agaion (and they will) their odds will shorten..they will be 6-4 at some stage this season and that's when you can lay them off and make a tidy profit.

This is what I actually started the thread about, rather than how competitive are Arsenal and Liverpool.

I'm old.

And stupid.

I understand gambling in as much as I used to go down the bookies and bet on a race, or a series of races, either to win, or each way.  That's complicated enough for me.  An each way Yankee ftw, wahoooooo.

But nowadays, what with Befair, and similar sites, you guys don't necessarily need Utd, to come back enough to win the title ( which is what I was thinking about )
but just to improve enough to challenge.

So you can take advantage of the shorter odds by laying ( ? ) them, and making a profit either way.

Is there an idiots guide on how to go about this ?  How much risk would there be ?  When and how would one get the profit ?  What sort of profit could one aim for , if one ( me    ) staked, say £10, £50, £100, £300 respectively.

I'd back at 11-4 and lay them off at 6-4 or 7-4 later on in the season...ITB actually has a good idea..wait with some of the money you're sticking on until after the Chelski game..if they lose that they would go 7-2'ish (market always over reacts) and stick the last bit of money on after that game (if they beat Chelsea they shouldn't go much shorter that 5-2 and would still be worth backing IMO)

[Rooky9]

I think that it is worth pointing out that creative central midfield players are somewhat thin on the ground at manure.

With the notable exception of 33 year-old Paul Scholes that is.

One other possible area of concern is the now regularly unconvincing play from Van Der Saar.

11/4 still looks tempting mind you as liverpoo were less than inspiring in their first two games.

How many goals did Man U score, and therefore create last year? I agree they don't have that stereotype creative play maker - but they have something far more cutting, clinical and effective in Ronaldo. The addition of Berbatov and his ability to bring people into play could put them in an even better position to score more goals this year.

Agree with the keeper, disaster waiting to happen.