Bad day at the office

[mondatoo]

Had bad session yesterday after a few weeks of constantly winning sessions and feeling very comfortable at this low level.Confidence hasn't really taking a dent just looking for as much criticism(sensible that is) on a couple hands i played.On a side note i've got man flu at the moment and possibly not a good idea to be grinding away without a clear head I wouldn't play when I was tired so should I not be playing when i'm not feeling to great either?

First hand I'm certain he don't have the Q and i thought he would've folded 55 or 77 pf and also why bet so much on turn if that was what he had i put him on AK or 1010 99 and him not believing I had the Q probably shouldnt be giving such credit to him at this level but he seemed ok.So is this as terrible a play by me as it felt afterwards are did i just read it wrong?

***** Hand History for Game 429443327 *****
$20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 18, 04:10:36 ET 2008
Table Sodium 61 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Rideitout5 ( $13.01 USD )
Seat 2: mondo07 ( $38.16 USD )
Seat 3: Auron ( $5.96 USD )
Seat 4: opmut ( $20.00 USD )
Seat 5: Patricko ( $39.58 USD )
Seat 6: RororS ( $18.21 USD )
mondo07 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Auron posts big blind [$0.20 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mondo07 [  ]
Patricko raises [$0.70 USD]
RororS folds
Rideitout5 folds
mondo07 raises [$1.70 USD]
Auron folds
Patricko calls [$1.10 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
mondo07 bets [$2.80 USD]
Patricko calls [$2.80 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
mondo07 bets [$5.40 USD]
Patricko raises [$17.50 USD]
mondo07 raises [$28.16 USD]
Patricko calls [$16.06 USD]
mondo07 shows [, ]
Patricko shows [, ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Patricko wins $73.52 USD from main pot

The 2nd hand this was guys 1st hand at table and i'd never played with him before maybe i should just give this up but i think he could have a lot of hands that i have beat here

***** Hand History for Game 429426796 *****
$20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 18, 03:26:44 ET 2008
Table Sodium 63 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Ifxxxuup ( $20.00 USD )
Seat 2: mondo07 ( $21.27 USD )
Seat 3: aspire ( $10.31 USD )
Seat 4: FTOmmm1 ( $12.63 USD )
Seat 5: Patricko ( $25.38 USD )
Seat 6: Delta1964 ( $25.22 USD )
aspire posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
FTOmmm1 posts big blind [$0.20 USD].
Ifxxxuup posts big blind [$0.20 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mondo07 [  Ah ]
Delta1964 calls [$0.20 USD]
Ifxxxuup raises [$0.70 USD]
mondo07 raises [$2.40 USD]
aspire folds
FTOmmm1 folds
Delta1964 folds
Ifxxxuup calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Ifxxxuup checks
mondo07 bets [$2.65 USD]
Ifxxxuup raises [$17.60 USD]
mondo07 calls [$14.95 USD]
Ifxxxuup shows [, ]
mondo07 shows [Ah, ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Ifxxxuup wins $38.48 USD from main pot

Thanks for any helpful advice in advance.

[Longy]

Firstly i try not to play when i overtired or ill but sometimes i think that is me being lazy.

Hand 1

I'am not sure why you think villian shouldn't have 88 or 55 as these are pretty standard calls pre this deep with implied odds. Make it more in hand 1 with the 3bet pre somewhere around $2.22 is good imo, he will still probably call (correctly).

Too much on the flop, make your cbet smaller maximum of 2/3 pot especially on such a dry board. Just give it up on the turn, in fact i would check and see what villian does as you are turning jj into a bluff here without history. You should be passing this uber quickly once you get raised what can he have apart from a stone cold bluff?

Hand 2

You have made your 3bet alot more here, why? I mean i like this raise size alot more but anyone paying attention is going to think you have exactly ak here. On the flop the cbet is standard though again i think you have to pass to the shove, there are so many hands that have you beat. You are almost calling for a chop or trying to pick off a pretty mad bluff on this board.

[byronkincaid]

everyone seems to be making tiny 3 bets now so I dunno if I've missed some video or post that everyones copying but I make it $2.70 preflop, you have good hands you want to get value from them no?

[MC]

Hand 1

I'am not sure why you think villian shouldn't have 88 or 55 as these are pretty standard calls pre this deep with implied odds. Make it more in hand 1 with the 3bet pre somewhere around $2.22 is good imo, he will still probably call (correctly).

Too much on the flop, make your cbet smaller maximum of 2/3 pot especially on such a dry board. Just give it up on the turn, in fact i would check and see what villian does as you are turning jj into a bluff here without history. You should be passing this uber quickly once you get raised what can he have apart from a stone cold bluff?

Hand 2

You have made your 3bet alot more here, why? I mean i like this raise size alot more but anyone paying attention is going to think you have exactly ak here. On the flop the cbet is standard though again i think you have to pass to the shove, there are so many hands that have you beat. You are almost calling for a chop or trying to pick off a pretty mad bluff on this board.

^^Agree with this completely...

Hand 1 - Don't understand why you raise so little. Any two semi-decent cards should call you here. Def think you should check the turn, and I really dislike the shove once he's raised

Hand 2 - Totally agree this raise with AK transparent as anything, especially if hand one is how you play Jacks. Folding TPTK is hard sometimes, but with 3 straightening and flushing cards it's not so tough. Best case scenario is he has a monster draw here, so I think you have to pass to a shove.

[mondatoo]

Its not how i play either hand normally I was just describing the thought process that went through my mind at the point of playing so terribly.I think the fact i was down about 4 bi's already losing with aces twice and kings well affected my thought process, I wasn't tilting(although it probably does look like it lol) but possibly that did effect my decision making.Quite clearly the JJ hand is horrible play on my part and is certainly not how I usually play jacks.I didn't think he would've played 55 or 88 as he was quite tight but the hands he was in he seemed to play quite aggressively.The problem i had in this hand was i was 100% certian he didn't have the q and also he didnt have kk or aa so he either has flopped the set or he has air.The fact he puts a huge bet in on the turn made me change my mind from folding to thinking he was bluffing and shoving.

The bet size not really sure what that was about i would generally make it 2.10 or around that mark.

[snoopy1239]

Hand 1: Raise more preflop, you're playing out of position, so you dont' want his calling range to be too wide and unpredictable. Don't mind the cb, but make it smaller so you get value from smaller pairs. Gotta wondering what he's calling your cb here with though. Very unlikely he's floating, so he either has you beat, or has a smaller pocket pair. I'd check the turn, because if he has the latter, he's likely to check behind and you might be able to squeeze out a value bet on the riv. If he bets, then there's a good chance your cooked on that board, so I'd reluctantly release. You can't be certain he doesn't have a queen, unless you have extensive notes on the guy that report otherwise. A-Q, K-Q, Q-J, Q-Ts... all possible.

Hand 2: Played fine, although I would have squeezed out a pass to the all in. His range is wide on this flop. Even if he has flush draw, he's not in terrible shape.

Unless you can beat the game blindfolded, try not to play if ill or tired.

[Amatay]

I fold hand 1 on the turn and hand 2 on the flop m8. I know its easy for me to say that having seen the outcome but whilst reading the HH i was thinking the same thing. You cant beat much in hands 1 or 2 imo. ul

[kinboshi]

Its not how i play either hand normally I was just describing the thought process that went through my mind at the point of playing so terribly.I think the fact i was down about 4 bi's already losing with aces twice and kings well affected my thought process, I wasn't tilting(although it probably does look like it lol) but possibly that did effect my decision making.Quite clearly the JJ hand is horrible play on my part and is certainly not how I usually play jacks.I didn't think he would've played 55 or 88 as he was quite tight but the hands he was in he seemed to play quite aggressively.The problem i had in this hand was i was 100% certian he didn't have the q and also he didnt have kk or aa so he either has flopped the set or he has air.The fact he puts a huge bet in on the turn made me change my mind from folding to thinking he was bluffing and shoving.

The bet size not really sure what that was about i would generally make it 2.10 or around that mark.

You were tilting.  You weren't playing your A-game because of what happened previously.  You might not have had steam coming out of your ears (but I bet you did when that penalty and red card was given last night), but you were 'on tilt'.

The first hand it seems that you were ignoring what his betting was telling you, probably not something you'd normally do?