How Did I Play This Hand?

[AceOnTheRiver]

For a bit of history / perspective I have just doubled up my opponent from my pos as Chip Leader on the previous hand where he had Aces.

He has around 17,000 I have around 32,000

Blinds are 300/600

I have  in mid poistion and make it 1800 total, Button calls, everyone else folds

Flop 

I lead out for 3,000
Opponent Makes it 8,000
I tank for a long time before shoving.....

Thoughts?

[kinboshi]

Need more info about stack sizes, playing styles/images of you and the other players, number of players left, etc.

[TheChipPrince]

He's not folding after putting half his stack so essentially your calling his all-in as have no fold equity.  You don't have him on a jack, fair enough, but lots of draws out there.  Your either a fair bit behind, or slightly ahead here for me, I'd be inclined to fold...

[GrannyDee]

How has opponent been playing has he been solid/aggressive/tricky?

Standard move for me is a fold can't imagine opp is raising to fold giving us no fold equity. We are in a world of trouble against a Jack or a nine either that or we are marginally ahead of a draw surely there are better spots to stick it in.

[EvilPie]

Your 3000 looks weak and invites a raise.

If that was your plan and you think that oppo is the sort who will bluff raise a weak flop lead then you've played it perfectly and if you lose you've just got the timing a bit out.

Your dwell before shoving suggests that your initial 3000 was a bluff trying to take the pot down. You obviously don't fancy your hand so just pass it.

Even if he's on an up and down straight draw you've just gifted him the right price to call by betting too low on the flop. It's costing him 7000 to win around 26000. He can't pass no matter what he's got. If you get outdrawn it's your own fault for giving him the right price to call.

If you bet bigger on the flop he knows he's got to commit his whole stack which is much more difficult to do. He'd be putting 15000 in to potentially win 26000, possibly only 7000. The way it's played out he's the one telling you he's committed rather you you telling him he has to commit. Psychologically very different.

[AceOnTheRiver]

To try to answer the questions above:

There are 10 players left and this will be the last hand before the final table as an elimination on the other table has just been announced - The top 5 will get paid. I am probably 2nd or 3rd in chips before this hand.

My opponent has been relatively solid although about 4 hands earlier he called a couple of big bets pre-flop and on the flop when I had   with   on the flop and no flush or straight draw. He lead out for 3,000 on the turn and I came over the top to put him all in and he folded.

I have been reaonably agressive up to now although opponent has only joined our table for about 10 hands.

[MANTIS01]

My opponent has been relatively solid although about 4 hands earlier he called a couple of big bets pre-flop and on the flop when I had  with  on the flop and no flush or straight draw. He lead out for 3,000 on the turn and I came over the top to put him all in and he folded.

OK, check it out. When your oppo bet the turn and you raised him moments ago what did you have? You had a pretty damn good hand. A lot of bets in poker are pretty straightforward and mean what they say. If you judge that your opponent has been playing solid in this game I would say you need to respect your man for a hand here. Also, the guy's just put half his stack in on the FT bubble so he's liking his cards. The evidence says he has a hand, and yours looks pretty small in comparison. He could obv be bluffing cos of the FT announcement, if so his bluff deserves to get through cos it's a good one. Why not just go to the final 2nd in chips and get your stack in as a bigger fav than here? Just fold after your c-bet and get your chips back later imo.

[MC]

Standard move for me is a fold can't imagine opp is raising to fold giving us no fold equity. We are in a world of trouble against a Jack or a nine either that or we are marginally ahead of a draw surely there are better spots to stick it in.

Agree with this generally.

Tens and you can shove it in, but hard to see him passing, and it's a bit hopeful to think he might have 77 or AK...

[AceOnTheRiver]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I knew I played it pretty badly I just wanted to canvas some opinion.

Cheers

[kukushkin88]

Another thing to bear in mind is that alot of players won't get involved the hand after doubling up unless they have a strong hand. Obviously this assumption can be quite exploitable to but as a general rule against an average opponent it can be useful.

[AlexMartin]

leading out is bad enough, 3bet shoving allin is fancy play syndrome, you need a specific read and know your opponent very well to make this move (ie he needs to be very spewy and bluffy and respect the range ur repping (narrow)).