sick spot with QQ in GUKPT brighton 300

[daviebhoy]

I tend to agree with Mantis here generally speaking. But, there are a lot of bad players who only 3-bet pre with AA/KK (possibly QQ/JJ) and when they do they 3-bet min-reraise coz they want to inflate the pot without losing the original raiser. This hand reaks of exactly that play and for that reason I think this is a fold.

If we can somehow determine opponent is better than that then I think it is a definite call. His post flop play can be explained by him being scared that you have a jack and being in a rush to get all his chips in. I really don't think he is considering what you can have and how to extract value from you. I think he is only worried that you have a J in your hand and on seeing the third one has decided you don't have it so pushed all-in.

[George2Loose]

Im with Trigg- he rarely shows 99-10 10 here or AK.

I woudl fold QQ in this spot

[MANTIS01]

I would appreciate those chaps supporting the fold to tell me a bit more about villain's thinking with the A-A. daviebhoy gave it a go and i was still zomg i can't see it. He said villain would jam the flop cos he's scared hero has a Jack and is in a rush to get his chips in (really badly struggling with that strat straight away)...then when villain binked the nuts again he was so relieved by this he just jammed it in even harder. So villain is the type of guy who jams the nuts hard...yet 2 seconds ago when he had the nuts pre he was the type of guy who raised very soft cos he didn't want to lose his customer. Why is villain all over the place with his A-A? His strat is more confusing than an episode of Lost imo....and unless I saw black smoke coming out of his arse I call quick. Do people fold K-K here? Also I'm now thinking min-raising has so much merit cos I have to have A-A if I min-raise right?

[daviebhoy]

KK is never a fold as he is just as likely to have QQ as AA. I think its a tough spot and I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out villain had 88. There are soo many bad players who only 3-bet AA-QQ though and min-raise when they do it. The post flop play would be consistent with that kind of player rushing to get his chips in. I think its more to do with player not being used to pressure of having a big hand and not sure exactly what to do with it than extracting value. I don't think there is much thought there hence why it is confusing.

I'm guessing you get respect at the table for not being a terrible player Mantis so I don't think your min-reraise is going to get you credit for AA :-)