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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2009, 01:10:10 PM »

Long time since we had someone this loud gobby on the forum..  LOL..

dunno - DBC not been gone long!
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« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2009, 01:12:15 PM »

Cos.

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« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2009, 01:15:19 PM »

Long time since we had someone this loud gobby on the forum..  LOL..

dunno - DBC not been gone long!

Is he gone? LOL
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« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2009, 01:31:26 PM »

Long time since we had someone this loud gobby on the forum..  LOL..

dunno - DBC not been gone long!

Is he gone? LOL

Sure is.

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« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2009, 01:43:45 PM »

Ok, would like opinions on a few deal situations that occured this weekend...

Comp is a £550 affair, 95 runners, 10 paid. There are 13 left, have been for the last hour. I'm probably 8/13. A deal is proposed by the other table remaining to take £500 off the top three spots (16.5/8.5/6.2) and pay 11th-13th to help speed things up. Given my current position i have no problem with this, however i know for a fact that on the table that has proposed the deal a friend of mine is sitting there with <3bbs. The table obv haven't taken note of this,i have. He's staying quiet as a mouse, so did I. Should I?

Later on, same comp. When six handed we had smoothed the payout structure to the following. 1st: 14,000, 2nd 7980, 3rd-6th 4500. We're 4 handed at 10k/20k/2k. 1.4mil total in play. In 15 mins blinds will go 20/40/4k. I have 290k and am 3/4, it's obv that the other three want to deal and not play it out. I feel i'm the best player at the table although i've got the 2nd best player and big stack to my left. There is approx £31k in the pot left to play for, we're now kinda playing a satellite. If we deal right  now i guess i'd get 7k, if i bust i get 4.5k. If i can double through i can either leverage a good deal for around 10k of the prize pool that will remain or play it out and go ftw. I thought the best way to play this (allbeit with <15bbs) was to try and increase my stack in the last 15 mins of this level to try and either get it 3 handed or at least improve my stack to get a better deal, as if we were still four handed at 20k/40k it'd been stupid and i'd have been forced to deal regardless of my stack.

Thoughts please.

You're guaranteed £4.5k, and if you do a deal, you're probably getting £7k. If I was in your position, and I wanted to continue at that point on, and I doubled up, I would just go for the win. I don't think I would risk going for the double up, and once I have it, accept a deal. So it's either deal now, or go for the win. Also, I am probably looking at this focussing too much on the remaining players, but I reckon you could have dominated that table. (Hopes we are talking about the same tournament...)
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« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2009, 01:48:27 PM »

Ok, would like opinions on a few deal situations that occured this weekend...

Comp is a £550 affair, 95 runners, 10 paid. There are 13 left, have been for the last hour. I'm probably 8/13. A deal is proposed by the other table remaining to take £500 off the top three spots (16.5/8.5/6.2) and pay 11th-13th to help speed things up. Given my current position i have no problem with this, however i know for a fact that on the table that has proposed the deal a friend of mine is sitting there with <3bbs. The table obv haven't taken note of this,i have. He's staying quiet as a mouse, so did I. Should I?

Later on, same comp. When six handed we had smoothed the payout structure to the following. 1st: 14,000, 2nd 7980, 3rd-6th 4500. We're 4 handed at 10k/20k/2k. 1.4mil total in play. In 15 mins blinds will go 20/40/4k. I have 290k and am 3/4, it's obv that the other three want to deal and not play it out. I feel i'm the best player at the table although i've got the 2nd best player and big stack to my left. There is approx £31k in the pot left to play for, we're now kinda playing a satellite. If we deal right  now i guess i'd get 7k, if i bust i get 4.5k. If i can double through i can either leverage a good deal for around 10k of the prize pool that will remain or play it out and go ftw. I thought the best way to play this (allbeit with <15bbs) was to try and increase my stack in the last 15 mins of this level to try and either get it 3 handed or at least improve my stack to get a better deal, as if we were still four handed at 20k/40k it'd been stupid and i'd have been forced to deal regardless of my stack.

Thoughts please.

You're guaranteed £4.5k, and if you do a deal, you're probably getting £7k. If I was in your position, and I wanted to continue at that point on, and I doubled up, I would just go for the win. I don't think I would risk going for the double up, and once I have it, accept a deal. So it's either deal now, or go for the win. Also, I am probably looking at this focussing too much on the remaining players, but I reckon you could have dominated that table. (Hopes we are talking about the same tournament...)

Do you really think so?

I have no idea who any of the 4 players were but if you put Phil Ivey against 3 numptys he's going to struggle to dominate with these blinds.

There's only 70 bbs in play between 4 players. In 15 minutes they're on an average of <10bbs each.

Any edge is almost completely wiped out so it's down to whether you fancy a gamble.
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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2009, 02:08:01 PM »

i'll make one more post, if i can find it. if the forum opinion continues, i will resign with pleasure.public opinion/democracy and all that, i can take a hint
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« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2009, 02:15:28 PM »

i'll make one more post, if i can find it. if the forum opinion continues, i will resign with pleasure.public opinion/democracy and all that, i can take a hint

Noooooooooooooooo.

Everyone can handle it so just carry on. If you get out of hand you'll get banned anyway so there's no need to leave of your own accord.

As long as you don't mind getting a bit of stick for your outlandish posts you'll be fine.
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« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2009, 02:19:08 PM »

ty, then look for the next one.not quite sure where to post it yet?
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« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2009, 02:23:43 PM »

ty, then look for the next one.not quite sure where to post it yet?

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« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2009, 02:28:45 PM »

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You're guaranteed £4.5k, and if you do a deal, you're probably getting £7k. If I was in your position, and I wanted to continue at that point on, and I doubled up, I would just go for the win. I don't think I would risk going for the double up, and once I have it, accept a deal. So it's either deal now, or go for the win. Also, I am probably looking at this focussing too much on the remaining players, but I reckon you could have dominated that table. (Hopes we are talking about the same tournament...)

Yeah we're talking about the same tournment. Evilpie is right though in that it's hard, if not quite impossible to outplay people or dominate with the high blinds and shallow stacks.
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« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2009, 03:12:44 PM »

Cos.

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4/6.

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« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2009, 03:44:15 PM »

Ok, would like opinions on a few deal situations that occured this weekend...

Comp is a £550 affair, 95 runners, 10 paid. There are 13 left, have been for the last hour. I'm probably 8/13. A deal is proposed by the other table remaining to take £500 off the top three spots (16.5/8.5/6.2) and pay 11th-13th to help speed things up. Given my current position i have no problem with this, however i know for a fact that on the table that has proposed the deal a friend of mine is sitting there with <3bbs. The table obv haven't taken note of this,i have. He's staying quiet as a mouse, so did I. Should I?

Later on, same comp. When six handed we had smoothed the payout structure to the following. 1st: 14,000, 2nd 7980, 3rd-6th 4500. We're 4 handed at 10k/20k/2k. 1.4mil total in play. In 15 mins blinds will go 20/40/4k. I have 290k and am 3/4, it's obv that the other three want to deal and not play it out. I feel i'm the best player at the table although i've got the 2nd best player and big stack to my left. There is approx £31k in the pot left to play for, we're now kinda playing a satellite. If we deal right  now i guess i'd get 7k, if i bust i get 4.5k. If i can double through i can either leverage a good deal for around 10k of the prize pool that will remain or play it out and go ftw. I thought the best way to play this (allbeit with <15bbs) was to try and increase my stack in the last 15 mins of this level to try and either get it 3 handed or at least improve my stack to get a better deal, as if we were still four handed at 20k/40k it'd been stupid and i'd have been forced to deal regardless of my stack.

Thoughts please.

You're guaranteed £4.5k, and if you do a deal, you're probably getting £7k. If I was in your position, and I wanted to continue at that point on, and I doubled up, I would just go for the win. I don't think I would risk going for the double up, and once I have it, accept a deal. So it's either deal now, or go for the win. Also, I am probably looking at this focussing too much on the remaining players, but I reckon you could have dominated that table. (Hopes we are talking about the same tournament...)

Do you really think so?

I have no idea who any of the 4 players were but if you put Phil Ivey against 3 numptys he's going to struggle to dominate with these blinds.

There's only 70 bbs in play between 4 players. In 15 minutes they're on an average of <10bbs each.

Any edge is almost completely wiped out so it's down to whether you fancy a gamble.

I watched around about 40 mins to an hour or so (Was drinking/come back from some bars, so was a bit off it) just before the deal happened between 3 of them, and it appeared as if some of them were playing with scared money. OK, I know that the difference between £16k and £4.5k is pretty huge, but I reckon atleast 2 of the guys were just sitting their waiting for hands or atleast mediocre Ace's. With the blinds being so huge relative to chip stacks, it obviously would have been difficult, but I reckon there was some scope for some bullying!

Anyways, well played to get so far anyways Dino, gutted you didn't win!
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« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2009, 03:47:02 PM »

ty, then look for the next one.not quite sure where to post it yet?

I suggest the mods forum?
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« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2009, 03:54:39 PM »

red dog, you were on my table saturday, you came in to seat 9 i was seat 2, you nicked my bb twice, the second time showing AK. if you noticed, i did not bat an eyelid, thats class.

Blimey, I was on about 8 different tables on Saturday, they moved me every 5 minutes. Which table was it?

Mind you, I never nick anyones blinds, you must have me confused with someone else.

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