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« on: June 01, 2009, 02:18:53 AM »

Here is an interesting spot in a 2/4 cash game from the other day. What are your thoughts?

Villans stats are :

3k hands
39/16/3.2


***** Hand History for Game 2634070398 ***** (Prima)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, May 30, 10:52:21 ET 2009
Table Crownimperial (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Signor ( $439.70 USD )
Seat 2: TooEasyGuys ( $1027.10 USD )
Seat 3: Inoriisss ( $404.00 USD )
Seat 4: pretender1 ( $911.30 USD )
Seat 5: Garnerus ( $400.00 USD )
Seat 6: xxfactor ( $196.10 USD )
Inoriisss posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
pretender1 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].

Dealt to TooEasyGuys [  ]
Garnerus raises [$12.00 USD]
xxfactor folds
Signor folds
TooEasyGuys raises [$44.00 USD]
Inoriisss folds
pretender1 raises [$903.30 USD]
Garnerus folds
TooEasyGuys..........
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 02:22:44 AM »

If he's good I prob fold. Seems quite a common way to play AA nowadays
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2009, 06:23:43 AM »

If he's good I prob fold. Seems quite a common way to play AA nowadays

He is playing 39/16/3 so not likely to be good, therefore I call with a sigh being 200bbs+ deep makes it a pretty shitty spot.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 07:45:12 AM »

wow, that's a pretty stupid bet no matter what he has. If he does have AA he loses every customer other than a KK.
I think his bet already implies that he is no good.

Snap and cry when he does flip the AA...but I wouldn't be surprised to see JJ/QQ here.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 07:27:46 AM »

I end up calling, he shows AA and wins the pot.

My only concern is I have only invested $44 and now have to invest another $766+ , I know KK is a big hand but folding here I think reduces variane a tone and isnt that -ev.

Lesson learned, next time I might fold (and he probs will show QQ lol)
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 04:50:34 PM »

dont know what your dynamic is but if ur properly rolled its a snap.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 03:40:50 AM »

never fold
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 09:40:53 AM »

dont know what your dynamic is but if ur properly rolled its a snap.

If you have no stats on him Alex would you still snap?
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 10:54:52 AM »

whats his 3 bet %? And is he on the way up or down stack-wise (i.e. did he used to have 400 bb?) And is he a regular donk who is often seen on the games? How many hands do you have on him? How often have you been 3 betting, espicially in this position? Is he pissed off at you - maybe you bluffed him in a few hands?

Think these reads all have a bearing on whether to call or not.

It is a tough hand, and a situation that rarely comes up. I know some donks i would fold KK to here, but far more who i would just call against
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