omaha mtt

[$muszlesz$]

this hand just came up in a omaha mtt can anybody tell me if they would play it differantly and if so why

PokerStars Game #31528429396: Tournament #185389394, $20+$2 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2009/08/11 22:46:00 ET
Table '185389394 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pocker tiger (75625 in chips)
Seat 2: Big"J"FromMK (18610 in chips)
Seat 3: CloWn.SaNe (19891 in chips)
Seat 5: 100%agave (22344 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Bhrine (20910 in chips)
Seat 7: LRED (16865 in chips)
Seat 8: bowling50 (28805 in chips)
Seat 9: dabop (1950 in chips)
Big"J"FromMK: posts small blind 300
CloWn.SaNe: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Big"J"FromMK [ Ah ]
100%agave: folds
Bhrine: folds
LRED: raises 1200 to 1800
bowling50: folds
dabop: folds
pocker tiger: folds
Big"J"FromMK: raises 2400 to 4200
CloWn.SaNe: folds
LRED: calls 2400
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Big"J"FromMK: bets 9000
LRED: raises 3665 to 12665 and is all-in
Big"J"FromMK: calls 3665
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Big"J"FromMK: shows [ Ah ] (a pair of Queens)
LRED: shows [ ] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
LRED collected 34330 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 34330 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: pocker tiger (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Big"J"FromMK (small blind) showed [ Ah ] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: CloWn.SaNe (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 100%agave folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Bhrine folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LRED showed [ ] and won (34330) with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 8: bowling50 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: dabop folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[dousche]

this hand just came up in a omaha mtt can anybody tell me if thewy would play it differantly and if so why

he probably woulda played it completely differently, mainly cos he's really really good. probs best to ask him though

[KarmaDope]

I'm a bit of an Omaha noob but I don't see why we 3-bet OOP with this hand. And even if we do, the 3 bet is far too small...5.5k ish for me.

As for flop, we have top pair, a gutshot straight draw and an average flush draw at best. We have 3 outs that guarantee to give us the best hand IF the flush doesn't come. An A does give us a better 2 pair, but could give oppo the straight so I wouldn't be searching for that.

I would play it this way - call preflop, lead out and if we're raised, toss it.

[Graham C]

Like Sharplea said except I'd prob check the flop and fold to a bet.

[$muszlesz$]

i 3 bet because it was the 1 spot off the bubble and we r playin quite deep he could of passed pre...but whne the flop hits like it does i feel i should try to get it in and hope to hit or hope he passes on flop......is this a bad idea then ?

[EvilPie]

You're not deep though. You've only got 30bbs.

If he repots it pre, which is what I would do this short with his hand what do you do? If you're committing then fine, if not then your raise pre is very dangerous and wasting chips.

As played you've got to get it in on this flop. If your flush draw's not good it's likely that your made hand with the Q is.

If your Q isn't good you got 2 pair outs.

If you're up against a set and a bigger flush draw then unlucky, he got you with a monster.

I personally call this pre. If oppo likes to c bet I check to him then raise the pot when he leads. With a bit of luck he's got an overpair and can't lay it down or he's got a bigger flush draw. If he's got spades as well as a pair we're fooked but that's just meh.

If he's not aggro I lead pot and don't care what he does as I'm now committed.

[boldie]

Raise more pre or flat pre...both are fine for me.

On the flop you get it in if you only have 30BBs

[EvilPie]

Like Sharplea said except I'd prob check the flop and fold to a bet.

If you're doing that on this flop you should be passing pre.

[$muszlesz$]

i would of got it in pre if he re raised

[GreekStein]

No need to rr pre here. You are OOP and he can call your small reraise profitably - you have to value your tournament life a bit! As played you now have to go broke.

[$muszlesz$]

i managed to get to the 1st money place as it only payed 6 places i would rather try to win this pot and take a shot at 1st place rather than scrape the money as the big stack was winnin 90% of the pots...i think foldin the flop is weak as we have a good shot at winnin the tourny if we win this 40k pot .....right or wrong ?

[boldie]

i managed to get to the 1st money place as it only payed 6 places i would rather try to win this pot and take a shot at 1st place rather than scrape the money as the big stack was winnin 90% of the pots...i think foldin the flop is weak as we have a good shot at winnin the tourny if we win this 40k pot .....right or wrong ?

Noone says fold the flop though, no? It's more about re-raising pre that peopledon't like.

[$muszlesz$]

ok thanks guys