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[EvilPie]

Interesting the consensus is to fold, I dont dont mind calling here - plenty of scenarios where you are in decent shape, seems like a good spot to gamble to me

Just stoved this and its pretty tight actually, given pot odds we need 29% and we have 25% using following ranges so a fold looks correct - Even if you widen villian1's range which is reasonable it doesn't alter things that much



   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    25.112%     20.12%    04.99%        2147936718    532825341.17   { AdQc }
Hand 1:    28.128%     26.54%    01.59%        2833138841    169672432.67   { 22+, A7s+, KJs+, A7o+, KJo+ }
Hand 2:    46.760%     42.07%    04.69%        4491336056    500522763.17   { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Lol, changed my mind again... villian 2's range is wider than what I assigned above... I'm calling!!!

Can't see any problem with your assigned range here. He's effectively calling for his tournament life. Unless he has a read on villain 1 that says he likes to resteal shove then he isn't going in light here.

[T_Mar]

Interesting the consensus is to fold, I dont dont mind calling here - plenty of scenarios where you are in decent shape, seems like a good spot to gamble to me

Just stoved this and its pretty tight actually, given pot odds we need 29% and we have 25% using following ranges so a fold looks correct - Even if you widen villian1's range which is reasonable it doesn't alter things that much



   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    25.112%     20.12%    04.99%        2147936718    532825341.17   { AdQc }
Hand 1:    28.128%     26.54%    01.59%        2833138841    169672432.67   { 22+, A7s+, KJs+, A7o+, KJo+ }
Hand 2:    46.760%     42.07%    04.69%        4491336056    500522763.17   { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Lol, changed my mind again... villian 2's range is wider than what I assigned above... I'm calling!!!

Can't see any problem with your assigned range here. He's effectively calling for his tournament life. Unless he has a read on villain 1 that says he likes to resteal shove then he isn't going in light here.

Yeah guess its player dependant as always - I could see myself shoving 77/88, AJ, maybe even AT if I was villian 2, figuring to squeeze out opener and likely be ahead againt the shortstack, including these hands would make it a call for AQ - prob not too much of a mistake either way

[AlexMartin]

is there no justifictation for the call given stack sizes here?

both players are all in - he is getiing >2:1 - he has an A and a Q - and can call and lose and still have 45 BB's left?

not a snap fold for me. If you have been super active - 1st guy could be going with a very light holding and 2nd guy could have 99-JJ (i know its the bottom of his range and I am trying to make the call look favourable)

I dont think this is an easy fold given the set up - i think that I probably fold after consideraton - but i wouldnt hate the call given the above

yarp +1

[George2Loose]

Given stack sizes and image I think this was close.

Villian 1 had 44. Villian 2 had AK

I did fold after banking

[dousche]

not sure cash-type pokerstovage applies particularly well here. in tourneys not all chips have the same value, they have diminishing value (ie 20k worth less than 2x 10k) - im not saying that i think its not close but fwiw i fold here too

[LuckyLloyd]

Whenever a situation is genuinely close (as this one is), the smaller the effective stacks are - the more I call. I'd have got it in bad here most of the time.

[titaniumbean]

not sure cash-type pokerstovage applies particularly well here. in tourneys not all chips have the same value, they have diminishing value (ie 20k worth less than 2x 10k) - im not saying that i think its not close but fwiw i fold here too

Yeah I get what you mean, just posted to show that even when you widen the range massively I dont think you can make this particularly clearly +EV, therefore I'd look for a better spot though not saying that at the time I would consider calling at least for just a while.

[dousche]

another point not considered so far is that george is a donk so probably should look to get them in here and hope to spin up. he's unlikely to have any value to gain from playing future pots, especially at stakes as high as $10 mtts

[George2Loose]

another point not considered so far is that george is a donk so probably should look to get them in here and hope to spin up. he's unlikely to have any value to gain from playing future pots, especially at stakes as high as $10 mtts

10$ rebuy I'll have you know

[Blatch]

ummm call and bink 3 queens?

[George2Loose]

ummm call and bink 3 queens?

I was going to but couldn't get the RNG alignment right so folded

[dousche]

another point not considered so far is that george is a donk so probably should look to get them in here and hope to spin up. he's unlikely to have any value to gain from playing future pots, especially at stakes as high as $10 mtts

10$ rebuy I'll have you know

wasnt judging, more pointing out that you could save your chips for better spots