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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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Read the exert article in the Observer last month.
That concentrated it seemed on her relationship with her father,
Can someone who has read the book confirm its a little wider than that
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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Quote from: Dingdell on November 09, 2009, 10:32:49 PM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 09, 2009, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on November 09, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
For Richer, For Poorer: A Love affair with Poker by Victoria Coren
‘For Richer, For Poorer’ is a memoir at it's most basic level of how Coren won a million dollars in the EPT. However that is but one small part of an engrossing book that starts with her trying to break into her brother’s games wanting to meet boys. Each chapter finishes with an account of the London EPT she won. First and foremost this is a book about poker but it revealingly much more than that, and all the better for it. One reviewer described it as a "memoir about friendship and belonging". For example Coren comments on her personal life; the bullying she experienced at school, her love for her father, her passions for her lovers, her depression.
There’s a huge cast of characters both those familiar to Poker aficianados but also some familiar to those readers who won't be au fait with the poker world such as celebrities (Martin Amis, John Diamond, Ben Affleck, Tom Parker-Bowles) which I would expect is one of the reasons explaining the book's "cross-over" popularity with non-poker readers, that and Coren's media profile on quiz shows and the like.
The book is wonderfully observed, with a dry style. Here’s a scene from a ‘novelty’ (as it was at the time) Ladies’ Tournament:
“One dazzling redhead scoops her Vietnamese neighbour’s entire stack of chips with a fiendishly hidden set of eights, slow-playing her clean out of the tournament, while asking the question, ‘Are you still seeing that construction worker? He seemed cute.’
The small blind asks the button if she’s dating anybody right now. The button, calling a small raise on the flop, chats about an ongoing fling with an office colleague and some fears about commitment. The small blind, betting three-quarters of the pot on the turn, expresses the view that this is normal and that the romance sounds promising. The button, mucking her hand in disgust, compliments the big blind on her blouse. The big blind smiles, and provides details as to where such a blouse can be acquired locally at reasonable cost.”
In adition to the Poker, and the personal life, this is a very funny book too:
“Men and women are not sufficiently different, psychologically, for either gender to be ‘naturally’ better at poker than the other. I am not saying that gender differences do not exist. It is only women who have headaches without telling anybody, remember arguments verbatim, re-use cotton wool, worry about the problems of characters on television, or have close and long-standing friendships with people they don’t like. And it is only men who get excited about military hardware, blow their noses on their hands, say ‘Can’t we talk about this tomorrow?’, have any interest in watching Michael Caine films, think seriously and carefully about what they would do if they encountered a bear (or a shark, or a dinosaur, or Hitler) while carrying only a candlestick, or take out a pint of milk, sniff it, make a face, then put it back in the fridge.”
Towards the end of the book Coren becomes reflective, revealing her ambitions but also some dissatisfaction with herself.
“What if I had some wishing dust and could start all over again? How could I change it so I wouldn’t get my heart broken, so I would build a more significant life, fit more in, achieve higher things? At what point would I need to start the change?”
She also at points seems almost embarrassed about being an unmarried, child-free, thirty-something female.
With a book like this, where you know how it ends before you even pick it up, it’s testament to the writer’s skill to keep you hanging on every word, living and breathing the experience with them. Coren explains her motivations and her unerring attachment to the game and you understand exactly.
“I always suspected that poker was not about money for me. But now that it has been tested, I know. I won a £25,000 tournament when that was a life-changing fortune, but it did not make me happy because my heart was broken and money is no cure. I won a £500,000 tournament, but it did not make me happy because my father had come back and I was so happy already that there was not room for any more.”
These days of course Coren is sponsored by Stars. In response to her airing her concerns about signing with them her father said:
“Have you lost your mind? If A.A. Baines, turf accountants, had offered Uncle Sid a year’s worth of free bets in exchange for wearing a T-shirt, he’d have bitten their arm off.”
In my opinion, this is a must read.
if you do want to buy it, do so here and help blonde at the same time
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Richer-Poorer-Love-Affair-Poker/dp/1847672914?&camp=2486&linkCode=wsw&tag=blondepoker-21&creative=8942
Done my bit for blonde.. ordered along with dracula for the girfriend as shes bang into the twighlight books at the moment..... if anyone wants me on the 20th i'll be in the local multiplex watching hammy loved up teenage vampires.... FML
Sicillians account hacked - someone pretending he's got a girlfriend.
Jealousy is a terrible thing...
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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November 10, 2009, 10:44:10 AM »
Quote from: duncthehat on November 10, 2009, 10:36:17 AM
Read the exert article in the Observer last month.
That concentrated it seemed on her relationship with her father,
Can someone who has read the book confirm its a little wider than that
?
Did you read Tighty's review at the top of this thread?
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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November 10, 2009, 10:44:57 AM »
Quote from: duncthehat on November 10, 2009, 10:36:17 AM
Read the exert article in the Observer last month.
That concentrated it seemed on her relationship with her father,
Can someone who has read the book confirm its a little wider than that
Yeah, everything's broadly covered - it's very well structured to not focus too heavily on any one aspect.
EDIT: plus what Andrew just said
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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November 10, 2009, 10:46:49 AM »
Quote from: Jon MW on November 10, 2009, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: duncthehat on November 10, 2009, 10:36:17 AM
Read the exert article in the Observer last month.
That concentrated it seemed on her relationship with her father,
Can someone who has read the book confirm its a little wider than that
Yeah, everything's broadly covered - it's very well structured to not focus too heavily on any one aspect.
EDIT: plus what Andrew just said
Yeah, but what's it about?
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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November 10, 2009, 11:04:22 AM »
Quote from: the sicilian on November 10, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: Dingdell on November 09, 2009, 10:32:49 PM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 09, 2009, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on November 09, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
For Richer, For Poorer: A Love affair with Poker by Victoria Coren
‘For Richer, For Poorer’ is a memoir at it's most basic level of how Coren won a million dollars in the EPT. However that is but one small part of an engrossing book that starts with her trying to break into her brother’s games wanting to meet boys. Each chapter finishes with an account of the London EPT she won. First and foremost this is a book about poker but it revealingly much more than that, and all the better for it. One reviewer described it as a "memoir about friendship and belonging". For example Coren comments on her personal life; the bullying she experienced at school, her love for her father, her passions for her lovers, her depression.
There’s a huge cast of characters both those familiar to Poker aficianados but also some familiar to those readers who won't be au fait with the poker world such as celebrities (Martin Amis, John Diamond, Ben Affleck, Tom Parker-Bowles) which I would expect is one of the reasons explaining the book's "cross-over" popularity with non-poker readers, that and Coren's media profile on quiz shows and the like.
The book is wonderfully observed, with a dry style. Here’s a scene from a ‘novelty’ (as it was at the time) Ladies’ Tournament:
“One dazzling redhead scoops her Vietnamese neighbour’s entire stack of chips with a fiendishly hidden set of eights, slow-playing her clean out of the tournament, while asking the question, ‘Are you still seeing that construction worker? He seemed cute.’
The small blind asks the button if she’s dating anybody right now. The button, calling a small raise on the flop, chats about an ongoing fling with an office colleague and some fears about commitment. The small blind, betting three-quarters of the pot on the turn, expresses the view that this is normal and that the romance sounds promising. The button, mucking her hand in disgust, compliments the big blind on her blouse. The big blind smiles, and provides details as to where such a blouse can be acquired locally at reasonable cost.”
In adition to the Poker, and the personal life, this is a very funny book too:
“Men and women are not sufficiently different, psychologically, for either gender to be ‘naturally’ better at poker than the other. I am not saying that gender differences do not exist. It is only women who have headaches without telling anybody, remember arguments verbatim, re-use cotton wool, worry about the problems of characters on television, or have close and long-standing friendships with people they don’t like. And it is only men who get excited about military hardware, blow their noses on their hands, say ‘Can’t we talk about this tomorrow?’, have any interest in watching Michael Caine films, think seriously and carefully about what they would do if they encountered a bear (or a shark, or a dinosaur, or Hitler) while carrying only a candlestick, or take out a pint of milk, sniff it, make a face, then put it back in the fridge.”
Towards the end of the book Coren becomes reflective, revealing her ambitions but also some dissatisfaction with herself.
“What if I had some wishing dust and could start all over again? How could I change it so I wouldn’t get my heart broken, so I would build a more significant life, fit more in, achieve higher things? At what point would I need to start the change?”
She also at points seems almost embarrassed about being an unmarried, child-free, thirty-something female.
With a book like this, where you know how it ends before you even pick it up, it’s testament to the writer’s skill to keep you hanging on every word, living and breathing the experience with them. Coren explains her motivations and her unerring attachment to the game and you understand exactly.
“I always suspected that poker was not about money for me. But now that it has been tested, I know. I won a £25,000 tournament when that was a life-changing fortune, but it did not make me happy because my heart was broken and money is no cure. I won a £500,000 tournament, but it did not make me happy because my father had come back and I was so happy already that there was not room for any more.”
These days of course Coren is sponsored by Stars. In response to her airing her concerns about signing with them her father said:
“Have you lost your mind? If A.A. Baines, turf accountants, had offered Uncle Sid a year’s worth of free bets in exchange for wearing a T-shirt, he’d have bitten their arm off.”
In my opinion, this is a must read.
if you do want to buy it, do so here and help blonde at the same time
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Richer-Poorer-Love-Affair-Poker/dp/1847672914?&camp=2486&linkCode=wsw&tag=blondepoker-21&creative=8942
Done my bit for blonde.. ordered along with dracula for the girfriend as shes bang into the twighlight books at the moment..... if anyone wants me on the 20th i'll be in the local multiplex watching hammy loved up teenage vampires.... FML
Sicillians account hacked - someone pretending he's got a girlfriend.
Jealousy is a terrible thing...
Oh damm - you got me
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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November 10, 2009, 11:23:04 AM »
Someone whos read it tell me if any bits in their talking about boyfriends past present? any poker players.
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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Quote from: Acidmouse on November 10, 2009, 11:23:04 AM
Someone whos read it tell me if any bits in their talking about boyfriends past present? any poker players.
Yes, but JonMW is not actually named in the book.
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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November 10, 2009, 11:33:54 AM »
Quote from: AndrewT on November 10, 2009, 11:26:20 AM
Quote from: Acidmouse on November 10, 2009, 11:23:04 AM
Someone whos read it tell me if any bits in their talking about boyfriends past present? any poker players.
Yes, but JonMW is not actually named in the book.
He said, past/present - not future
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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November 10, 2009, 02:51:26 PM »
Quote from: Dingdell on November 10, 2009, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 10, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: Dingdell on November 09, 2009, 10:32:49 PM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 09, 2009, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on November 09, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
For Richer, For Poorer: A Love affair with Poker by Victoria Coren
‘For Richer, For Poorer’ is a memoir at it's most basic level of how Coren won a million dollars in the EPT. However that is but one small part of an engrossing book that starts with her trying to break into her brother’s games wanting to meet boys. Each chapter finishes with an account of the London EPT she won. First and foremost this is a book about poker but it revealingly much more than that, and all the better for it. One reviewer described it as a "memoir about friendship and belonging". For example Coren comments on her personal life; the bullying she experienced at school, her love for her father, her passions for her lovers, her depression.
There’s a huge cast of characters both those familiar to Poker aficianados but also some familiar to those readers who won't be au fait with the poker world such as celebrities (Martin Amis, John Diamond, Ben Affleck, Tom Parker-Bowles) which I would expect is one of the reasons explaining the book's "cross-over" popularity with non-poker readers, that and Coren's media profile on quiz shows and the like.
The book is wonderfully observed, with a dry style. Here’s a scene from a ‘novelty’ (as it was at the time) Ladies’ Tournament:
“One dazzling redhead scoops her Vietnamese neighbour’s entire stack of chips with a fiendishly hidden set of eights, slow-playing her clean out of the tournament, while asking the question, ‘Are you still seeing that construction worker? He seemed cute.’
The small blind asks the button if she’s dating anybody right now. The button, calling a small raise on the flop, chats about an ongoing fling with an office colleague and some fears about commitment. The small blind, betting three-quarters of the pot on the turn, expresses the view that this is normal and that the romance sounds promising. The button, mucking her hand in disgust, compliments the big blind on her blouse. The big blind smiles, and provides details as to where such a blouse can be acquired locally at reasonable cost.”
In adition to the Poker, and the personal life, this is a very funny book too:
“Men and women are not sufficiently different, psychologically, for either gender to be ‘naturally’ better at poker than the other. I am not saying that gender differences do not exist. It is only women who have headaches without telling anybody, remember arguments verbatim, re-use cotton wool, worry about the problems of characters on television, or have close and long-standing friendships with people they don’t like. And it is only men who get excited about military hardware, blow their noses on their hands, say ‘Can’t we talk about this tomorrow?’, have any interest in watching Michael Caine films, think seriously and carefully about what they would do if they encountered a bear (or a shark, or a dinosaur, or Hitler) while carrying only a candlestick, or take out a pint of milk, sniff it, make a face, then put it back in the fridge.”
Towards the end of the book Coren becomes reflective, revealing her ambitions but also some dissatisfaction with herself.
“What if I had some wishing dust and could start all over again? How could I change it so I wouldn’t get my heart broken, so I would build a more significant life, fit more in, achieve higher things? At what point would I need to start the change?”
She also at points seems almost embarrassed about being an unmarried, child-free, thirty-something female.
With a book like this, where you know how it ends before you even pick it up, it’s testament to the writer’s skill to keep you hanging on every word, living and breathing the experience with them. Coren explains her motivations and her unerring attachment to the game and you understand exactly.
“I always suspected that poker was not about money for me. But now that it has been tested, I know. I won a £25,000 tournament when that was a life-changing fortune, but it did not make me happy because my heart was broken and money is no cure. I won a £500,000 tournament, but it did not make me happy because my father had come back and I was so happy already that there was not room for any more.”
These days of course Coren is sponsored by Stars. In response to her airing her concerns about signing with them her father said:
“Have you lost your mind? If A.A. Baines, turf accountants, had offered Uncle Sid a year’s worth of free bets in exchange for wearing a T-shirt, he’d have bitten their arm off.”
In my opinion, this is a must read.
if you do want to buy it, do so here and help blonde at the same time
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Richer-Poorer-Love-Affair-Poker/dp/1847672914?&camp=2486&linkCode=wsw&tag=blondepoker-21&creative=8942
Done my bit for blonde.. ordered along with dracula for the girfriend as shes bang into the twighlight books at the moment..... if anyone wants me on the 20th i'll be in the local multiplex watching hammy loved up teenage vampires.... FML
Sicillians account hacked - someone pretending he's got a girlfriend.
Jealousy is a terrible thing...
Oh damm - you got me
Keep fighting it.....
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Re: Book Review: Victoria Coren's For Richer For Poorer
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I actually think Vicky is quite Cheeky.. but i have reached a certain age....u know how it is...
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