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« on: November 02, 2009, 06:54:47 PM »

online MTT
$5000 freeroll 3000 starting stacks
280 runners-200 remaining
blinds 50/100 15 min clock
I have about 2600 chips, average is about 4400.
It is a ten handed table.
I have not played many hands. my oponent has about 4200. i have no reads on him.
i am UTG with   . I raise to 350.
It folds to the button, who calls. THe blinds fold.
the flop comes    .
i bet 500. The button calls. turn-
I check. THe button bets 1200.
What should i do now? how should i have played this hand?
Any advice would be appreciated. cheers.

I know it was a pretty boring hand, but, i did think someone might take pity on me and offer me some advice. Ah well, not to worry, i suppose i'll have to try and work things out for myself.
 I wasn't really too concerned about how to play precisely this hand. I was just looking for advice to help me to deal with these frequent situations where you raise pre-flop with a pair such as JJ, get called, then the board comes down with an overcard and/or other cards that may have hit and you are out of position against a competent  opponent.

Anyway, looking at my hand again. blinds 50/100. i raise to 350 with  and get one caller (the button). The flop comes  . I'm happy with the way i've played the hand so far lol.

Now the tricky bit. My options. 1. Bet.  2.check-with the intention of calling any 'reasonable' bet.  3. check-with the intention of raising any 'reasonable' bet.  4.check-with the intention of folding to any bet.  5.check-hoping that my opponent will check, then bet any turn that has most likely not improved my opponents hand.

Looking at my options again. 1-bet. Is this a complete no no? if not, do i have to follow through with another bet on the turn, as checking (which i did) seems to be giving up the hand to my opponent. At the same time, betting seems to commit me to the pot, so it would have to be all-in?
2. checking-with the intention of calling any reasonable bet. This sounds quite good to me. If he bets, and a relatively safe card comes on the turn i will probably be ahead, i'm not really sure though and we may well both feel comitted to the pot at this point.
3. check-with the intention of raising any reasonable bet. This definitely sounds promising. He will probably be betting with ATC. I will, more often than not be ahead.
4. Check-wih the intention of folding to any bet. Dont like this . He will prob bet, especially if he does not have a good draw, such as OESD.
5. check-hoping that my opponent will check. not keen. As above, he will prob bet, unless he has a big draw. Then again that might give him all the more inclination to bet it it. Either way, checking and hoping for a cheap showdon is just too weak.

Summary. I'm thinking, in hindsight, that the flop of ktt is pretty good for my pair of jacks. My opponent would more than likely have  raised pre-flop with hands like AA, KK, QQ and probably AK too.
I think that betting the flop, with the intention of going all-in on the turn is ok, but, my final answer is CHECK-RAISE ALL-IN!

Can ANYONE tell me if i finally got it right?

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 11:32:51 PM »

I've just realised why none of you have replied to my post. No one knows how to play JJ UTG!
 eg-First hand of GUKPT at Blackpool. Blinds 25/50. You have  UTG. You have four well known pros at your table.
 What do you do? Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 11:56:54 PM »

first make it 300 pre
2nd make it 450-500 on flop
once he calls check fold the turn
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 12:18:53 AM »

I've just realised why none of you have replied to my post. No one knows how to play JJ UTG!
 eg-First hand of GUKPT at Blackpool. Blinds 25/50. You have  UTG. You have four well known pros at your table.
 What do you do? Smiley
raise 125
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 12:23:20 AM »

I've just realised why none of you have replied to my post. No one knows how to play JJ UTG!
 eg-First hand of GUKPT at Blackpool. Blinds 25/50. You have  UTG. You have four well known pros at your table.
 What do you do? Smiley
raise 125

pre ante you have to make it 3x bb
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2009, 06:15:41 PM »

Thanks for the replies-Both of you! cheers Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2009, 07:05:13 PM »

Limp pre call any single raise and set mine. Play a very small pot on a sub J board
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2009, 08:15:28 PM »

You played it fine, Just check-fold the turn. I mean what can he be calling with on the flop and betting the turn that you beat? AQ/Q9?.. AJ/QJ/J9?  (All 3 are unlikely as you have 2 Jack blockers) A small/medium pocket pair 9's or below? (do these pair hands really bet the turn?!) Some random floated bluff, Which I doubt he would do unless hes a decent player. He either has a 10 or a king imo which both beat you so it has to be a fold on the turn.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2009, 10:04:00 AM »

Thanks for the replies. Outragous-i assume you were refering to the GUKPT example. I asked a few friends for their opinions on that particular situation, as i was interested to hear their thinking behind their decisions. One person went for the pre-flop raise option, and put forward a pretty good argument for doing so. The others chose the limp option. I think your reply (outragous) hit the nail on the head. Cheers.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 01:18:06 PM »

your welcome - play it the same on line too @ level 1
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