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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2010, 12:45:40 AM »

From my perspective as a (former) lawyer with no axe to grind whatsoever, the Israelis boarded a ship in International waters which is Piracy so everything else in kinda irrelevant. They have acted illegally.

Much the same as us invading Iraq.

If you want other folk to obey International Law it's generally a good idea to obey it yourself.

The Israeli army are sure going to give a toss about that after a couple of their mates have been murdered............

If that is true, it still wouldn't have happened if they hadn't acted illegally in the first place. The ship wasn't acting illegally. The Israeli's were.

Doesn't matter if they were acting illegally or not, they don't give a toss if they were..............
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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2010, 06:26:11 AM »

Don't get it...heavily armed commandoes attack a ship defended by legally occupied aid workers who have only knives to look after themselves and murder them. Why don't the Yanks arrest them?

Why didn't the aid workers just get on there knees and say do what you need to do then take it up with the UN after.

The aid workers mobbed the comandoes and hit them with bars, chairs etc. If you do that to people with guns theres only going to be one outcome

So we should all bow down to those better armed

Well unless you want to die yes Lips Sealed

I get bored about hearing about this israeli/palestine shit on the telly and completely switch off when it comes on. What pisses me off is you never hear an impartial objective view, it was the same bollocks when it was kicking off in Northern Ireland, couldn't be arsed listening to any of that bollocks either.........

Strategically the humanitarian aid protestors couldn't lose
Tactically they messed it up

Either:

1. The Israeli's would let them through the blockade - then they'd get huge publicity and deliver the aid (this was never going to happen)
2. They would stop the aid and the protestors could just surrender - this would have pretty much the same result as what hapenned but probably (but only probably) without them dying
3. They attacked the Israeli's and defended themselves - with the current situation

Clearly the 2nd option would have been much a better option - but ultimately AndrewT hit the nail on the head and it doesn't really require that much analysis or discussion really

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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2010, 01:28:21 PM »

Don't get it...heavily armed commandoes attack a ship defended by legally occupied aid workers who have only knives to look after themselves and murder them. Why don't the Yanks arrest them?

Why didn't the aid workers just get on there knees and say do what you need to do then take it up with the UN after.

The aid workers mobbed the comandoes and hit them with bars, chairs etc. If you do that to people with guns theres only going to be one outcome

"it is better to die on your feet, than live forever on your knees"

-Federico GarcĂ­a Lorca
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