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« on: June 16, 2010, 10:03:08 PM »

Slowly getting back into the poker, was this bad play or did it just go wrong?

PokerStars Game #45599042578: Tournament #316010563, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (700/1400) - 2010/06/16 16:47:21 ET
Table '316010563 22' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: vasilisk1 (25330 in chips)
Seat 2: PIT.BELGIUM (35760 in chips)
Seat 3: Rolaid702 (54120 in chips)
Seat 4: Keel20 (9557 in chips)
Seat 5: Jochen0907 (33992 in chips)
Seat 6: oomitäs (27610 in chips)
Seat 7: Kargon666 (5109 in chips)
Seat 8: Graham0573 (22633 in chips)
Seat 9: shuran365 (6450 in chips)
vasilisk1: posts the ante 175
PIT.BELGIUM: posts the ante 175
Rolaid702: posts the ante 175
Keel20: posts the ante 175
Jochen0907: posts the ante 175
oomitäs: posts the ante 175
Kargon666: posts the ante 175
Graham0573: posts the ante 175
shuran365: posts the ante 175
shuran365: posts small blind 700
vasilisk1: posts big blind 1400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Graham0573 [ ]
PIT.BELGIUM: folds
Rolaid702: folds
Keel20: calls 1400
Jochen0907: folds
oomitäs: folds
Kargon666: folds
Graham0573: raises 2800 to 4200
shuran365: folds
vasilisk1: calls 2800
Keel20: calls 2800
*** FLOP *** [ two hearts ]
vasilisk1: bets 1400
Keel20: calls 1400
Graham0573: raises 16858 to 18258 and is all-in
vasilisk1: raises 2697 to 20955 and is all-in
Keel20: calls 3782 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2697) returned to vasilisk1
*** TURN *** [ two hearts ] []
*** RIVER *** [ two hearts ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vasilisk1: shows [ ] (a pair of Tens)
Graham0573: shows [ ] (high card King)
vasilisk1 collected 26152 from side pot
Keel20: shows [ ] (a pair of Threes)
vasilisk1 collected 30421 from main pot
Graham0573 finished the tournament in 440th place and received $9.83.
Keel20 finished the tournament in 441st place and received $9.83.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 56573 Main pot 30421. Side pot 26152. | Rake 0
Board [ two hearts ]
Seat 1: vasilisk1 (big blind) showed [ ] and won (56573) with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: PIT.BELGIUM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Rolaid702 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Keel20 showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 5: Jochen0907 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: oomitäs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Kargon666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Graham0573 (button) showed [ ] and lost with high card King
Seat 9: shuran365 (small blind) folded before Flop
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2010, 10:16:30 PM »

Pretty sure you can shove this pre and it is inexploitable esp given the stacks behind you.

If the effective stacks were a bit deeper I would make it less pre 3500 is fine here. As played yeah get it in on this flop with two overs and the 2nd nut fd. The ridic min donk bet is basically a check and the bb is basically calling with atc here to that donk.

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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2010, 10:20:04 PM »

 My thinking was suprisingly similar, cheers, I was hoping it was ok!
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2010, 02:05:15 AM »

Yeah, shove pre...but as played it's fine.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 05:13:39 PM »

I don't think we should be raising just under a fifth of our stack here with KJ off. If big blind shoves, you? I mean, I doubt he's ever bluff shoving on you, but it does allow him to jam with hands like AJ/KQ/AQ etc which could be hands he simply folds when you jam.

I think jamming is preferable here.
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