Rush cash hand

[outragous76]

When sb flats my raise pre im super suspicioius but very surprised whn he checks flop

whats ur line with TT from here?

Full Tilt Poker Game #24269347369: Table Mercury - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:04:48 ET - 2010/09/28
Seat 1: Yusuf89 ($61.70)
Seat 2: LADY-MONEY1 ($54.10)
Seat 3: sally_game ($47)
Seat 4: Fedorov Danil ($95.10)
Seat 5: Legendbel ($32.45)
Seat 6: Kpy4e_BceX ($23.10)
Seat 7: jiggypop79 ($42)
Seat 8: DJonik_EV ($66.50)
Seat 9: outragous76 ($81.30)
Yusuf89 posts the small blind of $0.25
LADY-MONEY1 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [ ]
sally_game folds
Fedorov Danil folds
Legendbel raises to $1.50
Kpy4e_BceX folds
jiggypop79 calls $1.50
DJonik_EV calls $1.50
outragous76 raises to $8.25
Yusuf89 has 15 seconds left to act
Yusuf89 calls $8
LADY-MONEY1 folds
Legendbel folds
jiggypop79 folds
DJonik_EV calls $6.75
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Yusuf89 has 15 seconds left to act
Yusuf89 checks
DJonik_EV checks
outragous76 bets ?

[GreekStein]

Gotta bet.

[EvilPie]

Bet/fold.

I hate this play completely and it's why I don't play rush any more.

Best move would actually be to just go to the pub instead tbh.

[pleno1]

Why are you surprised he doesn't lead though, surely it would be standard to check entire range there?

[doubleup]

get HEM and you will have at least a clue whether the sb is a nit with a monster not wanting to 4 bet and frighten everyone off or a loose passive with a huge range.

obv the pot is quite big so anything pot sized is getting close to commitment.  I might check and see what happens on the turn.

[DMorgan]

The guy that flats the 3bet is checking everything here imo and this is kinda gross but I think bet/folding $15 is fine

[outragous76]

if i flat AA here OOP (ie what i think he has), then i dont mind the donk lead to play for stacks on this type of board - esp against 2 villains

If you check AA against 2 villains with then you can put yourself in weird spots when they check behind and you get sick action on the turn

In the end it turned out easy, I led for 17, sb jammed (ldo) but got snapped behind so was a trivial fold at that point - snapper had 86, sb AA

[DMorgan]

Whats the point in flatting AA pre then? You're doing it so that hands like TT and JJ happily stack off postflop. If you're playing even reasonably tight then it stinks of overpairs because theres nothing else you do it with. c/jam is a far better line imo on this type of board because most people (I'm gunna assum that this is especially applicable at 50nl rush) can't fold overpairs for one bet.

[outragous76]

Whats the point in flatting AA pre then? You're doing it so that hands like TT and JJ happily stack off postflop. If you're playing even reasonably tight then it stinks of overpairs because theres nothing else you do it with. c/jam is a far better line imo on this type of board because most people (I'm gunna assum that this is especially applicable at 50nl rush) can't fold overpairs for one bet.

because the line looks weird, and when you start weird why not continue that way.

I agree with you normally when reads are relevant, but in rush i find that non standard lines can often pay, as they have so little info on you. Also what happens when they are suspicious and check behind?