huge botring smashed at ftp

[tikay]

I think I'd pay good money to be present at a healthy debate betwen Tanky & Red. Brilliant stuff, from brilliant minds who can articulate precisely what they think. Most of us can but dream to be half as sharp.

[mondatoo]

I think I'd pay good money to be present at a healthy debate betwen Tanky & Red. Brilliant stuff, from brilliant minds who can articulate precisely what they think. Most of us can but dream to be half as sharp.

I'm pretty sure Tank just makes most of what he says up tbh but he knows it's totally on another level to our thinking so he gets away with it.I'm on to him I tell you.

[RED-DOG]

I don't know about stove but huds and trackers are only any good if the person using them can interpret the data properly, if not they are fairly useless as aids.

Machine guns are only any good if you know how to shoot one, but they are quite easy to master, and they do give the operator a bit of an advantage if used in a boxing match.

How do you pull the trigger with boxing gloves on? :-o

Oy! No sensible questions.

[rex008]

Interesting article on bots at The Reg this morning

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/12/poker_bot_confidential/

Seems quite well-informed.

[SuuPRlim]

Im really happy this has happened, I am constantly paranoid about stuff like this, I think Iv spent too much time in casino's wehre everyine tells me onine is rigged.

There is a clear difference between HEM/POKERSTOVE/PPT and bots, as has been said generating information on people and using that info on them to benefit your game and improve your desicion making is still dependant on your ability as a poker player, In the games I play when I come across a spot a dont know what to do I could solve the hand and come up with the exact right play for each scenario but it will take over an hour. If I could do that in game then surely I have an advantage that is unfair and I am cheating?

And Bots ARE bad for the game because despite the fact they are b/e or slightly +$ long term they are tkaing up seats which fish should be sat at, and even the very mention of them scares people who would be good value in online pokers away from playing.

Personally I hate HEM, poker tracker, poker (table) ratings and all this stuff and if i woke up tomorrow and they were all banned I'd be delighted. I think my edge would increase if NO-ONE had these aids, however if everyone else is using them and I am not then I am at an mega dis-advantage and thats stupid of me, so hey I cant not use them.

What do people think of data-mining and HH sharing as we're in the what is/isn't cheating comflab? Personally I LOATHE PTR because people can log on there and see me VPIP/PFR etc and watch replays of hands that I've played AND as if that isn't enough people can actually BUY my hand historys, surely using data you haven't personally gathered has to be cheating as well? I thnk the sites should take an active attempt to get it shut down.

If I was Isildur after the hastings match Id have had the heavies round, biggest loads BS every that FTP didn't snap ban both him and sbrugby and give Isildur his $ back.