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ACE2M
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« on: December 23, 2010, 11:52:31 PM »

oppo has been tight, played about 50 hands and he's barely moved a chip.

Full Tilt Poker Game #26648090100: Super Stack $14K Guarantee (206606957), Table 70 - 1700/3400 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:43:56 ET - 2010/12/23
Seat 1: grossepointe411 (187,342)
Seat 2: RHODEPUP (157,367)
Seat 3: DetroitBuddha (110,820)
Seat 4: Skipper-dawn (167,266)
Seat 5: Tatyana A (74,640)
Seat 6: DD-Town1985 (71,724)
Seat 7: ace2m (134,494)
Seat 8: joetelometto (125,116)
Seat 9: Motors11 (65,339)
grossepointe411 antes 400
RHODEPUP antes 400
DetroitBuddha antes 400
Skipper-dawn antes 400
Tatyana A antes 400
DD-Town1985 antes 400
ace2m antes 400
joetelometto antes 400
Motors11 antes 400
DetroitBuddha posts the small blind of 1,700
Skipper-dawn posts the big blind of 3,400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ace2m [ ]
DetroitBuddha: aa
Tatyana A folds
DD-Town1985 calls 3,400
ace2m raises to 13,600
joetelometto folds
Motors11 folds
grossepointe411 folds
RHODEPUP folds
DetroitBuddha folds
Skipper-dawn folds
DD-Town1985 calls 10,200
*** FLOP *** [ Two Clubs]
DD-Town1985 checks
grossepointe411: ooh
ace2m has 15 seconds left to act
ace2m bets 13,600
DD-Town1985 has 15 seconds left to act
DD-Town1985 raises to 57,724, and is all in
ace2m has 15 seconds left to act
ace2m has timed out
ace2m folds
ace2m is sitting out
Uncalled bet of 44,124 returned to DD-Town1985
DD-Town1985 mucks
DD-Town1985 wins the pot (63,100)
ace2m has returned
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 63,100 | Rake 0
Board: [ Two Clubs]
Seat 1: grossepointe411 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: RHODEPUP (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: DetroitBuddha (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Skipper-dawn (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Tatyana A folded before the Flop
Seat 6: DD-Town1985 collected (63,100), mucked
Seat 7: ace2m folded on the Flop
Seat 8: joetelometto folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Motors11 folded before the Flop

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2010, 11:57:40 PM »

yep I think so.

preflop is kinda MEH. 4x'ing prolly isn;t terrible but I dont really see any benefit to it?

I think chk call or bet call flop. no idea which is best need someone good to tell me.

Im pretty sure bet/fold is the worst option by a long way tho
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2010, 12:04:51 AM »

yep I think so.

preflop is kinda MEH. 4x'ing prolly isn;t terrible but I dont really see any benefit to it?

I think chk call or bet call flop. no idea which is best need someone good to tell me.

Im pretty sure bet/fold is the worst option by a long way tho

the table has been loony tunes, 2-3x PF raises just aren't getting through.

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2010, 12:12:44 AM »

Your initial reraise could be a bit less. Based on his play the fold is the best option. Check raise is a strong move and not often a bluff
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2010, 12:21:57 AM »

Your initial reraise could be a bit less. Based on his play the fold is the best option. Check raise is a strong move and not often a bluff

surely we cant bet fold to a 15bb stack here. surely not? He doesn't have any smaller 1ps or draws?
How many Qx hands does he limp call pre?
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 08:03:34 PM »

Your initial reraise could be a bit less. Based on his play the fold is the best option. Check raise is a strong move and not often a bluff

He didn't reraise initially.  UTG limped as I read it.  I don't hate the betsizing pre.  Post flop is difficult but the check raise looks fairly strong to me and I would probably just fold unless I had some kind of evidence he had the ability to make that kind of move as a bluff. 
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