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« on: July 31, 2011, 11:14:08 AM »

Please see part 1 for explanation on tournie.

Average chips is 22400, I have 125,500 and have a ridiculous image. I'm winning alot at non showdowns and thin value against the Spanish fish.

Previous hand villain raises UTG+1 w/55. BB called and c/r villains bet on 744 and villain tank jammed 55 and got ther eon the river against 88. He is stacking chips and I ask him how many does he have "86,000 - you?"

Almost 3 seconds after answering me he raises utg at 600/1200 to 2400.

Folds to me on the button and I make it 5975 with  he snap calls.

Flop

  three diamonds

he checks and I bet 5655, he immediately announces raise and throws in three 5k chips looking extremely confident. He knows I am very aggro and has gotten it in in similar circumstances in cash with qj on qxx in similar spot.


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He takes 3 seconds and checks. I check behind.

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He bets 10k. I call.


I think this hand is really interesting, because although I think I played it v.slow I was very confused whether keeping a huge stack (ft avg was 96k) was more important than potentially losing out on another 20k on the river and possibly 80 on the flop. I think his flop raising range is probal qq/jj/1010, although he very possibly raises all three of these pre, also he can have 33/88 and possibly, a10s, j10s.

Thoughts on everything including the discussion about "keeping a stack"
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 12:24:49 PM »

Vs this guy you can 3bet way bigger pre.

I'd be raising the river for value for sure. You'd somehow be able to make it 29753,5 if you wanted...Wink

Like flop and turn line.

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 02:52:20 PM »

"he immediately announces raise and throws in three 5k chips looking extremely confident".

30k/call.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 03:02:43 PM »

"he immediately announces raise and throws in three 5k chips looking extremely confident".

30k/call.

i agree with you in cahs games it would be super easy 3b/call. but i think in tournaments its really important about keeping a big stack with 30 left in a comp and ensure we dont go broke. maybe quite similar to the kk v aa hand that ben lamb played.

i really dont know how mor eimportant a big stack is compared to going for value against a range that is as wide as a range that is beating me.

thoughts?
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 07:43:49 PM »

Definitely agree with alex that you can 3b much bigger pre. I like your flop and turn lines but definitely raising river now that your hand his so under-repped
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 08:49:12 PM »

I don't hate the pre flop, flop, turn play but am defo raising the river when he bets 10k.

Could show up with Ace 3 or J9 something sick but I think hes highly likely to make a much bigger river bet than 10k if he has a hand that beats you after his 20.5kish total wager on the flop.

Likely QQ, JJ, 99, any T with a decent kicker, maybe even things like A8, 98, 97.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 06:44:57 PM »

"he immediately announces raise and throws in three 5k chips looking extremely confident".

30k/call.

i agree with you in cahs games it would be super easy 3b/call. but i think in tournaments its really important about keeping a big stack with 30 left in a comp and ensure we dont go broke. maybe quite similar to the kk v aa hand that ben lamb played.

i really dont know how mor eimportant a big stack is compared to going for value against a range that is as wide as a range that is beating me.

thoughts?

Can u give more info on villain- age etc, think its really important.
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