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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2011, 06:08:27 PM »

I really think upping the price will 1)Effect number of runners and 2) Mean that the better plays will play them. Hence for selfish reasons keep it as is. No idea re the overall effect regarding the poker economy

I don't really agree with that.  The GUKPT has a bigger BI and a more top heavy structure and a lot more of the big names shun that tour in favour of the UKIPT....

I reckon tho, as a whole, it would be better for the poker economy as a whole if the BI were kept at 550.

Yes lots of value in GUKPT's but they're tougher than UKIPTS
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2011, 06:08:50 PM »

I think they have no choice but to up to £750 or start holding them in hotels etc like EPT, but hard to justify that as the juice is a lot smaller and this might lead them to upping the juice which will cause even more controversy

Most of them are held in hotels
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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2011, 10:34:36 AM »

We were discussing this I'n mcr the other day , most of them want it 2 stay at 500 as people say with cost a 750 event becomes over 1k . And with genting starting there tour I'n feburary with a gtd pot and only 440 buy I'n . Most players will opt to play that . I have played 2 ukipt and really enjoyed them will be a shame at 750 just 2 much for us part time players
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2011, 10:52:11 AM »

From a personal viewpoint £750 is too much and will mean that I now won't be playing the DTD leg.

I also think that this could well prove detrimental to the GSOPT as people may choose to play these instead because of the value offered by the satellite qualifiers as opposed to the tougher fields like last week's at Coventry.
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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2011, 10:58:35 AM »

Up it.  I struggle to get the enthusiasm to travel for a £500 tourney.  It isn't the buy in, but the loss of earnings/expenses that go with it.  There are always sats/staking for those that can't afford the increase.    

And make them all 3 day max too.  Dragging them out to 4 days and then not even playing a full day is just ludicrous.  That will do more for the part timers than the entry fee.  
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2011, 11:00:40 AM »

I wouldn't mind a £750 one in London - at least then we get on the tour rather than Stars pretending the EPT is really part of the UKIPT.
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2011, 11:32:25 AM »

OP is definitely a credible source fwiw, so likely this may be happening.

EPT buy-ins aren't uniform across the board, so short of them wanting to make all the buy-ins the same, I don't see why they can't make a couple of them £750 but leave the majority of them at £500 to see what happens. If feedback is positive (from all sides) then potentially roll out more 750s the next season.

There were three Irish legs last year, make Dublin a 750 and make one of the English legs a 750, probably Brighton unless they host a leg outside of the Grand Final in London. It'd also be good for test purposes if the 750s didn't clash with the WSOP.
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2011, 11:43:04 AM »

Up it.  I struggle to get the enthusiasm to travel for a £500 tourney.  It isn't the buy in, but the loss of earnings/expenses that go with it.  There are always sats/staking for those that can't afford the increase.    

And make them all 3 day max too.  Dragging them out to 4 days and then not even playing a full day is just ludicrous.  That will do more for the part timers than the entry fee.  
With the success of the tour it's impossible to make them three days as numbers dictate there has to be a Day 1A and Day 1B. If you mean three days as in Day 1A/B, Day 2 and Day 3 then in the one's that were like that this year - Cork springs to mind - the day's were far too long for all involved, I believe it was something like 11 levels on Day 1s, same on Day 2 and final day not fair on the players IMO especially at the business end of the tournament. Nottingham was even worse and should've had an extra day.

If the events were to follow the three day format as above, they'd either have to change the structure, cap the field or as per OP, up the buy-ins to reduce the numbers.

Of the events last year that ran Day 1A/B, Day 2, Day 3, final - Newcastle for instance where there was no TV - the format was eight levels on Day 1A/B & Day 2, it then took about 10 levels to get down to the final table on Day 3 and the final lasted six levels, so an average of eight levels a day, which is about right in my opinion.

As for recreational players not being able/wanting to play an event that lasts Thursday-Monday, the final 'extra' day effects a very small percentage of the field and iirc Stars gave those who made the final free hotel rooms for the night before the final.
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2011, 12:46:26 PM »

As for recreational players not being able/wanting to play an event that lasts Thursday-Monday, the final 'extra' day effects a very small percentage of the field and iirc Stars gave those who made the final free hotel rooms for the night before the final.

This is a great touch.
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2011, 01:43:58 PM »

Horses for courses on this one...
Have different buyins (as done prev on ukipt tour) for the ones with anticipated high numbers.
Mixture of £500 - £1k would work fine if they pick the right venues for the higher buyins imo.
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