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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2011, 03:34:21 PM »

QQ and AK also a fold then Dan?
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2011, 03:50:26 PM »

Wouldn't fold QQ

Wouldn't fold AK either because I think AQs can be in his legit value range, even though personally I don't think it should in this spot in this game
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2011, 12:43:13 AM »

Mr Masood Ur Such a NIT! how can u ever fold! haha. I would 100% call in this spot if the guy actually seems like a good reg thats playing attention and uve been pretty aggro so far isnt this a good spot for him 2 3bet light? I think thers many rounouts that can slow down the action for you in this spot and i think calling pre and calling a cbet then evaluating on the turn is best unless the flop is terrible! Would he not iso with alot of value hands too which u beat!
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2011, 07:54:36 AM »

Mr Masood Ur Such a NIT! how can u ever fold!

Hahahaha! Sup Perry, glad you find this thread since you love finding ways around having to fold lol so it's good to get your opinion. It did feel nitty but i'm still not totally convinced.

I would 100% call in this spot if the guy actually seems like a good reg thats playing attention and uve been pretty aggro so far isnt this a good spot for him 2 3bet light?

He's a good reg for £1-2, so I'd probably compare him to a 25nl reg in terms of actual style/ability and there to play straightforwardly mopping up the fish. He's barely 3bet for an hour and a half though i've been opening a fair bit so to me it doesn't seem like he's going to choose an utg open plus lots of people to act behind to suddenly get fancy. I feel sure it's for value something in the region of TT+ AQo

I think thers many rounouts that can slow down the action for you in this spot and i think calling pre and calling a cbet then evaluating on the turn is best unless the flop is terrible!

If we call and he barrells both flop and turn what non nut runouts are we happy continuing on? Felt like i would be burning money by calling flop/folding turn most of the time, eg if he decides to double barrell like 6632 i don't think i can call. Similarly if he does have a hand we dominate he isn't going to always spew hard post like other fish might in this spot. Felt like the majority of the time stacks go in we'll be crushed, and the times we do win at showdown will be for comparitively smaller pots.

Also i'm not you so i don't flop a set here 25% of the time lol...Wink
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2011, 12:25:08 PM »

can the guy fold? if he cant, fold pre because ur gonna have to bluff a fair bit to win this post. fold just cant be bad.
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2011, 07:23:49 PM »

Yeh flopping a set is usually what i do best Smiley But i still get guys hero calling me with king high for some reason :O

Personally I just hate folding here i think your hand is way to strong to fold. If hes playing like a 25NL online reg then i guess his 3bet range will be alot tighter in this spot but however say u add a few light 3bets in his range so lets say            plus his value range here. Now i like our hand.

If he double barrels you on 6632 board for value id be shocked if hes play like a 25NL reg because with ur image of being aggresive surely he thinks u will call lighter preflop than u actually will. So im guessing he would check back the turn with QQ-AA and look for river value or bluff catch. Maybe I have a bad read on the situation and the the guy who 3bet but seems like a pretty clear call on the turn. I understand that its a very uncomfortable spot if he does double barrell and u will usually win a smaller pot when u do win but i think folding jacks is a little to nitty here! Can understand ur argument for folding BUT you cant win if u fold!
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 07:51:52 AM »

don't like folding, don't like beeing oop, i prolly make it £71 here.

Obv to call a shove? Or I hate this.

Normally flat/soul read here.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2011, 02:05:12 PM »

don't like folding, don't like beeing oop, i prolly make it £71 here.

Obv to call a shove?
Or I hate this.

Normally flat/soul read here.

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