Is this bad? #1

[zerofive]

Okay this is good news. I think there's been enough discussion for me to reveal that I was villain in this hand. I thought hero was a thinking player, but was revealed here that hero is just a hero.

Actual hand was the . Should I be checking back this turn? Seemed like a decent spot to jam when I'm clearly repping a massive hand and villain is capable of folding pairs. Plus I have a bunch of outs. How are we playing this hand? Please don't include "well he's likely to call the turn with second pair second kicker so check back ldo."

[AlexMartin]

4b pre

[muckthenuts]

Okay this is good news. I think there's been enough discussion for me to reveal that I was villain in this hand. I thought hero was a thinking player, but was revealed here that hero is just a hero.

Actual hand was the . Should I be checking back this turn? Seemed like a decent spot to jam when I'm clearly repping a massive hand and villain is capable of folding pairs. Plus I have a bunch of outs. How are we playing this hand? Please don't include "well he's likely to call the turn with second pair second kicker so check back ldo."

In this case yeah i quite like a turn jam to max our fold equity. Considering the texture and being stack size aware you're surely gonna be doing the exact same with AA here.

[cambridgealex]

Okay this is good news. I think there's been enough discussion for me to reveal that I was villain in this hand. I thought hero was a thinking player, but was revealed here that hero is just a hero.

Actual hand was the . Should I be checking back this turn? Seemed like a decent spot to jam when I'm clearly repping a massive hand and villain is capable of folding pairs. Plus I have a bunch of outs. How are we playing this hand? Please don't include "well he's likely to call the turn with second pair second kicker so check back ldo."

phewwwww

[pleno1]

check turn for sure.

[Pyso]

Hi Sean,

I wasn't involved in this but watched it all go down. I was sat to your opponent's right and I was in a mard nursing a short stack just passing the time until I felt more sociable...but enough of my grumnpyness..

The problem with this hand is the player you were up against.

Without naming names, he is a known station, had been winning all night so had an over enflated sense of his abilities and was more inclined to call light, especially to a shove that looks like what it is - either a massive over pair or AK and/or missed draw. At the time I thought you either had him crushed or had feck all and sorry to repeat it, but the trouble is here you are just making this move against the wrong player.

Against him you had about 5% fold equity, against someone like me, considerably more. When he calls your c-bet he has something and this sort of player doesn't need much encouragement to call with (in his mind) other peoples' chips.

You basically hadn't been at the table long enough to make moves like this on a very standard, wysywig 50p/£1 table

Anyway, that is my two penneth and keep up the blog, it is the best out there and wasted on a poker forum.

[cambridgealex]

Hi Sean,

I wasn't involved in this but watched it all go down. I was sat to your opponent's right and I was in a mard nursing a short stack just passing the time until I felt more sociable...but enough of my grumnpyness..

The problem with this hand is the player you were up against.

Without naming names, he is a known station, had been winning all night so had an over enflated sense of his abilities and was more inclined to call light, especially to a shove that looks like what it is - either a massive over pair or AK and/or missed draw. At the time I thought you either had him crushed or had feck all and sorry to repeat it, but the trouble is here you are just making this move against the wrong player.

Against him you had about 5% fold equity, against someone like me, considerably more. When he calls your c-bet he has something and this sort of player doesn't need much encouragement to call with (in his mind) other peoples' chips.

You basically hadn't been at the table long enough to make moves like this on a very standard, wysywig 50p/£1 table

Anyway, that is my two penneth and keep up the blog, it is the best out there and wasted on a poker forum.

Good post sir.

If you never ever bluff in a 50/1 game you won't go far wrong. You can certainly make money in those games JUST value betting and making good calls/fold.

[DMorgan]

Don't 3bet the button here vs tight passive early position opens. He's folding pretty much never, therefore the CO isn't folding either.

As played, checking turn here would be lolbad imo.

So many draws where he calls it off with worse and his range is ridic capped. This player type is never flatting this flop with 2pr/sets and he'd need to be a huuuuuuuge station, like, astronomically bad for us to assume that he doesn't fold Jx some of the time (remember he still gets to the turn with J7, J9, JT) and 8x the majority of the time. Even when he does hero it off with his capped 1 pair range you've still got 15 outs.

[SuuPRlim]

Don't 3bet the button here vs tight passive early position opens. He's folding pretty much never, therefore the CO isn't folding either.

As played, checking turn here would be lolbad imo.

agree