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« on: December 09, 2011, 01:16:50 AM »

All villain's in this hand are big WINNAR'S.

My stat's at the time were 10/8 over 60 hands, we've all been sat at the same table since the start. I guess most winning regs would pin me as a superfish if they sharkscope'd me.

Considering my supernit image I was quite surprised to pick up so many callers.

How wide do you feel a winning player is flatting from the sb? How much will my image affect a winning reg's calling range?

I felt sooooooo wary of one of these villain's had hood flatted me with AA.

WWYD?

p.s. on a side note, am I incorrect in weighing whether a player is good or not based on how much money they've won/lost over a decent sample?

PokerStars Game #71844838697: Tournament #550010724, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (150/300) - 2011/12/09 0:54:11 WET [2011/12/08 19:54:11 ET]
Table '550010724 15' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: moneyinbag (7843 in chips)
Seat 2: jalman69 (7525 in chips)
Seat 3: 888ash888 (12644 in chips)
Seat 4: Ultraballs18 (8302 in chips)
Seat 5: wiseman888 (13157 in chips)
Seat 6: chegusta4bet (14335 in chips)
Seat 7: SGE1977 (25172 in chips)
Seat 8: RenRad 01 (10675 in chips)
Seat 9: avivnaar (7515 in chips)
moneyinbag: posts the ante 40
jalman69: posts the ante 40
888ash888: posts the ante 40
Ultraballs18: posts the ante 40
wiseman888: posts the ante 40
chegusta4bet: posts the ante 40
SGE1977: posts the ante 40
RenRad 01: posts the ante 40
avivnaar: posts the ante 40
avivnaar: posts small blind 150
moneyinbag: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ultraballs18 [ ]
jalman69: folds
888ash888: folds
Ultraballs18: raises 400 to 700
wiseman888: folds
chegusta4bet: calls 700
SGE1977: folds
RenRad 01: calls 700
avivnaar: calls 550
moneyinbag: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
avivnaar: checks
Ultraballs18: bets 1250
chegusta4bet: calls 1250
RenRad 01: folds
avivnaar: raises 5525 to 6775 and is all-in
Ultraballs18: Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 02:28:59 AM »

what we waiting for

you start the hand with <30bbs - you have cbet 35% pot - looks like you are giving youself room to fold

most likely is that you are up against a monster combo, but im never folding in this spot
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 02:55:32 AM »

seriously?

another thread like this?
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2011, 02:56:24 AM »

not folding
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011, 03:07:10 AM »

seriously?

another thread like this?

Good day so far?
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011, 09:27:21 AM »

not folding
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 10:04:21 AM »

seriously?

another thread like this?

I agree.

Seriously more dicks need to be snapped off around here. That sounds super ghey but ya know what i mean.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 10:10:04 AM »

I mean he is just never folding 10x or a flush draw and/or a straight draw.We have under 30 bigs and should be delighted for the spot.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 11:15:51 AM »

yawn yeh he has a set, hence the thread.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 02:43:08 PM »

I'm just trying to become a more solid winner online guys, I apologise if some of you think this is an absolute no brainer.

I thought it was a no brainer at the time too, I'm just trying to plug as many leaks as possible that's all. Obv this isn't one of them.

It's incredibly frustrating to look players like this up to find they've won vast amounts of cash, I've played against better players down the local £20 rebuy.

I want my graph to look like their's god damn it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2011, 08:58:15 AM »

you know folding would be lolbad Tongue

in answer to the real questions ITT

The two callers from the blinds will have IMO a capped range with mostly high card hands/mid+suited connectors and small to mid pairs. I would expect good players to call but fold , I would never expect them to do anything bu oeel 22-88 unless you're a joke spew and stuff like etc , high card hands with good flop equity, Im pretty sure unsuited bad aces would be folded also. The two players out of your 4 callers i'd expect to see have the strongest range are the Hijack and the Small blind. The btn can be wider because he's OTB vs a random and a reg and the SB will prolly wanna be quite tight here as he's directly OOP to two good players, his range will prolly be the most dominated by small pairs. The BB has the most money invested currently and is closing the action so will most likely be wider than the SB

how much money they've won over a decent sample is a pretty shrewd way of judging ability, you can assume safely that anyone who has played 10k+games and won money is prolly a decent player, obv if they have been losing except for a massive score then this is different
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