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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2012, 06:24:45 PM » |
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Shove pre. Not even close.
As played it's an easy fold.
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2012, 07:02:18 PM » |
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Why a shove pre when I have been raising X2 for the last 3 orbits?
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2012, 07:16:15 PM » |
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Why a shove pre when I have been raising X2 for the last 3 orbits?
I guess it isn't terrible if you snap call that hand. But its still bad. however the stack sizes and blinds dictate that you need to remove any fold equity that the villains possess. Quite simply it is unexploitable to shove A8. However it is very exploitable to raise fold A8. Ask yourself iwhy you have played A8 as a pure bluff pre flop? I didnt notice what your M was whem i first posted. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2012, 07:52:59 PM » |
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So what should I be doing?
Shoving AI a slightly tigher range OR liberal opening and folding unless I have JJ/AQ plus or small stack gets to 100k?
Also come on Wednesday!!!!!!
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2012, 08:05:58 PM » |
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So what should I be doing?
Shoving AI a slightly tigher range OR liberal opening and folding unless I have JJ/AQ plus or small stack gets to 100k?
Also come on Wednesday!!!!!!
None of them options. Shove and shove a hell of a lot wider than AQ/JJ plus. If you really are in a great spot to just crush the guy on your left into the ground 2/3 hands. Look up Nash ranges online and shove anyything that has 8+bb shoving range. |
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2012, 09:00:56 PM » |
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Looked up Nash Ranges and maybee I have misunderstood but Blind on Blind?
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Also is my A8 a Shove?
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2012, 09:01:39 PM » |
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Icm wise this is an absolute dream situation to go mental with your shoving. Due to the similarty in stacks and the solitary prize jump they will have to have insane tight calling ranges vs you. I'd be shoving lots and grinding their stacks down as small as possible in relation to mine to ensure i lock up my own seat.
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2012, 09:44:32 PM » |
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Why a shove pre when I have been raising X2 for the last 3 orbits?
Don't raise 2x when your opponents have less than 10bb. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2012, 09:56:11 PM » |
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SAYS 20PLUS FOR A8
what is the 20 plus?
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2012, 10:02:37 PM » |
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SAYS 20PLUS FOR A8
what is the 20 plus?
Yeah. Buuuut take them with a tiny pinch of salt. It may be unexploitable to shove A8 for 20bbs but that is based on the assumption villain plays optimally too. Use it as a tool to see if you shove too tight/wide. Bet you are surprized no?! |
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2012, 10:46:35 PM » |
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If you really have min-raised 8 out of last 10 hands and both oppos have folded each time I would fold here and carry on 2xing it until the cows come home. I would only start jamming if they start 3bet jamming more frequently than this one time. Let them carry on playing terrible for as long as they want to imo.
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2012, 10:51:11 PM » |
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People don't play optimally and neither do I!!!!!!!
Proabably best to have Raise/Folded
got my seat/500 as well (and one the night before)
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2012, 11:21:52 PM » |
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People don't play optimally and neither do I!!!!!!!
Proabably best to have Raise/Folded
got my seat/500 as well (and one the night before)
Congrats on the score. Gl in the event if you play it |
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