I think that with these stack sizes, you should just flat call villian's opening raise. Although your hand is way ahead of villian's opening range you seem to be turning it into a pre-flop bluff. If you flat you could hit a pretty well disguised set. If you get called (as here) the only flop you are likely to be comfortable with is one with a nine in it. I think you have to fold to a 4-bet from villian too?
Would you really lead out on the flop with an overpair in this situation? I dont think so.
so, for me, it's flat pre, but, as played, i will go for a check on the flop.
You really check an overpair here? REALLY?
Cbet size should be about 1/2 pot here, 15k again is fine, even less is also good. 13-17.5k perfect.
Cheers for that reply rfgqqabc.
When i made my original post on this thread i was curious as to how my suggestion to check the flop would be received. I suppose that, as the player to make the most aggressive move pre-flop, convention would suggest that Skippy, our hero in this hand, should fire out a continuation bet?
When i chose the option of checking the flop, i was hoping that there would be some feedback to tell me the error of my ways (if it was an error).
One of my lines of thought was that, being OOP, hero would be in a similar position to someone who has flat called an opening raise, the main difference being that the pot was now much bigger (due to it being 3 bet), and so that, as well as being, potentially, a stack v stack confrontation, it would also be less likely for the villian to just give up to a c-bet.
If villian had a flush draw or an over-pair he certainly would not be folding.
I felt that by checking the flop, hero could then assess his options (particularly dependent on live reads). If vilian checked behind (prob unlikely), hero could then consider leading out on a non spade, low turn card, or maybe check again, trying to get to showdown cheaply.
I'm pretty tired at the mo, so probably thinking even less clearly than usual, so apolgies in advance if this one makes even less sense than my previous post.
I do still beleive, that, regardless of the post flop line, my suggestion to just flat call the original pre flop raise is the correct choice. I would be interested to hear if anyone begs to differ.
Cheers for posting the hand Skippy.
ps-I agree that the c-bet is too big, either way. It appears to commit hero to the hand, which i would say is not ideal, oop, with this stack and this particular hand.
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