UKIPT Exit - Can you get away?

[Beaver808]

Fold pre? Yes
C/R on the flop? No
Turn? Bet bigger
River? Sigh - I would have called and cried

Did he believe you had a jack? No
Did he put you on AK/AQ/Middle pair? Probably
Was he lucky to hit a two outer? Hell yes

Am I glad I wasn't in this hand? Yes.

Pleno has summed it up very well, I can't improve on what he's said really. But I do think that you were very unlucky to lose the hand after the turn came a J. He could have quite conceivably had AJ and the betting does look like it so to River a 10 for the full house is just awful for us. Had you not posted he turned TT I think a the general consensus would have been him holding AJ and ergo we still lose - so all in all not a good spot to find ourselves in.

[bobAlike]

After his flop bet/call I could only put him on over pairs and maybe AJ but thought this was unlikely.
The moral of the story is don't play shit cards because even when you hit more than likely you've probably missed.

Totally butchered this hand from the off and paid the price.

I really do appreciated the feedback guys. As a truly recreational player who has lost his poker mojo over the last 6 months this feedback is very helpful.

[mondatoo]

Great post by Pleno.

Re-read it several times imo - I have nothing I could possibly add.

It was a terrible post, he forgot the fact we win a big pot a small % of the time, BITB my arse.

[Yian]

You told me about a hand once where you were on the final table of the 300 at DTD, where you raised a bet with TT on a dry J high board; I personally think, like in this hand, it's a big mistake not to just flat call. I think in this spot you have this old school mentality where you raise to "find out where I am", whereas players nowadays understand that quite often you are not going to know 100% what you are up against but instead just try to control the pot based on their hand strength vs your opponents range. The stronger your hand is the more you put in, the weaker it is the less you put in. I know on this occasion he did have a lesser hand and called but can't imagine it's the right choice in the long run. But most definitely don't call the 3b pre with KJ.

[SuuPRlim]

another good point

hand reading has developed now to the point where betting because you think you have the best hand is no longer enough of a reason to bet, you need to be VERY clear about WHY you are doing what you are doing and what you hope to achieve by doing it.

If you have obvious gaps in your plans mid-hand - where you look a bit lost - good and even just decent players pick up on it easily nowadays and can really punish you.

[parker]

I spoke to gary about this pot...

you dont want to know his thoughts haha

[bobAlike]

I spoke to gary about this pot...

you dont want to know his thoughts haha

Very helpful, thanks.

[corkeye]

Would have preferred not to know what villain actually had. Do you gues not do this on blonde?

Not having a dig or owt, its always better to know what the optimal choice to make is vs villain's range rather than the specific exact two cards

[SuuPRlim]

I spoke to gary about this pot...

you dont want to know his thoughts haha

I think gary's turn call is a little questionable tbh

Although we certainly should have bet bigger OTT.